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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGriffC12 View Post
    There's no hardware.. They took them out like 2 weeks after surgery. Just sucked because I couldn't breath through my nose at all.. Or laugh because of the stitches..

    I remember watching the chapelle show, the 1 where he was prince, trying not to rip out a stitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBHFD68 View Post
    As far as the promotion to ff goes I understand that there should be 300 in the first class and not sure about how many in the second class. But just curious is this normal as far as the promotion goes to hire 300 plus or is it just because of the low staffing on the fire side since they haven't hired as normal. I was also told that they try and give all eligible people on the promotion list a chance?
    This is a unique circumstance in the same way that everything surrounding 2000 is unique. How many will be in future classes is hard to estimate. As far as "will filling an entire class right away" become a norm that they repeat with future lists.. Again, hard to say. Per NYS civil service law the city should be exhausting the promotional list before touching 2000, and they pretty much will with this class. The only reason they would normally stagger the promotional candidates is to protect staffing levels in EMS, but we're over head count right now in preparation for this.

    Also BigGriff that's pretty hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    This is a unique circumstance in the same way that everything surrounding 2000 is unique. How many will be in future classes is hard to estimate. As far as "will filling an entire class right away" become a norm that they repeat with future lists.. Again, hard to say. Per NYS civil service law the city should be exhausting the promotional list before touching 2000, and they pretty much will with this class. The only reason they would normally stagger the promotional candidates is to protect staffing levels in EMS, but we're over head count right now in preparation for this.
    Thanks for the response with that said should we expect to see another promotion exam given in 2 years or would it be closer to 4 years when the next OC test comes out given the hit EMS will be taking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBHFD68 View Post
    Thanks for the response with that said should we expect to see another promotion exam given in 2 years or would it be closer to 4 years when the next OC test comes out given the hit EMS will be taking?
    No clue. I believe I've seen the @JoinFDNY account on facebook say they are only offering the promotion every 4 years with the OC. Really it shouldn't matter, because if they held the test again in 2 years there would be a proportionally smaller # of people signing up to take it.

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    Anyone else notice that when your on this thread you feel like everyone got a really low number on the test?

    Most people who post their score are usually in the top 300.

    I hope it is just the smart people who took the test who are actually on this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirEd View Post
    Anyone else notice that when your on this thread you feel like everyone got a really low number on the test?

    Most people who post their score are usually in the top 300.

    I hope it is just the smart people who took the test who are actually on this forum.
    I assume the people who are not so high on the list don't really have nothing to gain by coming on here because they have some time to wait, I know if I had a little while to wait I would not be on here the anxiety would kill me hearing about classes being put in and me just waiting lol but that's just my .02
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    Anyone know how many steps are in a "standard" flight of stairs? The step machine I use measures in flights, but not steps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mocon337 View Post
    Anyone know how many steps are in a "standard" flight of stairs? The step machine I use measures in flights, but not steps.
    I believe 12 to 15 , Lt. down at the rock said it's equals about 14 flights in total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirEd View Post
    Anyone else notice that when your on this thread you feel like everyone got a really low number on the test?

    Most people who post their score are usually in the top 300.

    I hope it is just the smart people who took the test who are actually on this forum.
    Lots on this thread did well and lots got screwed by the second half meant to screw us. Lots not in this thread but high on the list are gonna lose their residency credit that they lied about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    Lots on this thread did well and lots got screwed by the second half meant to screw us. Lots not in this thread but high on the list are gonna lose their residency credit that they lied about.
    Everyone on this thread is pretty much equally serious about their aspirations for the job, high score or having gotten screwed over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    NYCERS does not administer FDNY's pension, they run it themselves, which is why there is little info available. I'm still not entirely sure if FDNY/NYPD falls into Tier 6, or if they are still Tier 3. Regardless of which tier, I believe with either you are looking at a minimum of 22.5 years of service, however there are certain benefits that are given if you wait till 25 years on to retire.
    We're tier 3. Overtime is capped (basically excluded) from the defined benefit upon retirement. Must do 22.5 years, 25 (or defer payments till 25) if you want full COLA. Pension is reduced by social security as mentioned.

    But, the worst of the changes come with injuries/line of duty deaths. There's basically no more disability pensions, if you get hurt (and it has to be over 5 years on I believe), you only get 40-something % of your pension, minus social security disability payments. Which, is obviously a huge drop from the 75% with it. God forbid you are killed in the line of duty, your family only gets a few years of salary. It's a disgrace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mocon337 View Post
    Everyone on this thread is pretty much equally serious about their aspirations for the job, high score or having gotten screwed over.
    I agree. Hope we all make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eng1irons View Post
    We're tier 3. Overtime is capped (basically excluded) from the defined benefit upon retirement. Must do 22.5 years, 25 (or defer payments till 25) if you want full COLA. Pension is reduced by social security as mentioned.

    But, the worst of the changes come with injuries/line of duty deaths. There's basically no more disability pensions, if you get hurt (and it has to be over 5 years on I believe), you only get 40-something % of your pension, minus social security disability payments. Which, is obviously a huge drop from the 75% with it. God forbid you are killed in the line of duty, your family only gets a few years of salary. It's a disgrace.
    I know it's a shame, but it's kind of hard to conceptualize when not yet on the job, and also at a relatively young age. I think the union may be able to negotiate some of those disability/LODD benefits back when financial times are better, and [unfortunately] probably after a tier 3 guy gets seriously hurt or killed. The other advantage right now is that the COLA in tier 3 is way better than 2, and if you make it to 25 years in one piece it's probably a better deal than tier 2. That could be bargained away to get back the disability stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eng1irons View Post
    We're tier 3. Overtime is capped (basically excluded) from the defined benefit upon retirement. Must do 22.5 years, 25 (or defer payments till 25) if you want full COLA. Pension is reduced by social security as mentioned.

    But, the worst of the changes come with injuries/line of duty deaths. There's basically no more disability pensions, if you get hurt (and it has to be over 5 years on I believe), you only get 40-something % of your pension, minus social security disability payments. Which, is obviously a huge drop from the 75% with it. God forbid you are killed in the line of duty, your family only gets a few years of salary. It's a disgrace.
    When you say overtime is capped do you mean that any overtime received during your tenure is not included in the FAS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by knicksh2o View Post
    When you say overtime is capped do you mean that any overtime received during your tenure is not included in the FAS?
    I believe it's a minimal amount, and it the amount included is capped based on how much overtime done previously, preventing someone from doing 80-100 hour weeks for 3 years and padding their pension like crazy.

    This is why the 457/401k and a decent side job are important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    I know it's a shame, but it's kind of hard to conceptualize when not yet on the job, and also at a relatively young age. I think the union may be able to negotiate some of those disability/LODD benefits back when financial times are better, and [unfortunately] probably after a tier 3 guy gets seriously hurt or killed. The other advantage right now is that the COLA in tier 3 is way better than 2, and if you make it to 25 years in one piece it's probably a better deal than tier 2. That could be bargained away to get back the disability stuff.
    Again I will say this, lets not worry about the pros and cons of the tiers just yet, lets get on the job first which is more important. Someone once told me that after this whole scandal with not enough minorities on the job and NOW they got some "good" numbers of this exam. Is only a matter of time where the minorities that are getting on will say well "how come now that fdny is hiring more minorities they gave us a crappy pension system". Guess what's going to happen to everyone who got on from this exam?. Don't take it as this is something that will definitely happen but quite honestly it feels like a BIG possibility the way things are right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    I believe it's a minimal amount, and it the amount included is capped based on how much overtime done previously, preventing someone from doing 80-100 hour weeks for 3 years and padding their pension like crazy.

    This is why the 457/401k and a decent side job are important.
    Gotcha

    And to respond to Jukez above: Providing for a family and a future is just as important as getting the job itself. Everyone needs to get the information about the pension system before they sign up for a city job. Its not like its a standard job where your can come and go as you please. Once you sign up, its 25 years. It is probably the biggest decision of all of our lives and having all the information to make the right one is important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukez View Post
    Again I will say this, lets not worry about the pros and cons of the tiers just yet, lets get on the job first which is more important. Someone once told me that after this whole scandal with not enough minorities on the job and NOW they got some "good" numbers of this exam. Is only a matter of time where the minorities that are getting on will say well "how come now that fdny is hiring more minorities they gave us a crappy pension system". Guess what's going to happen to everyone who got on from this exam?. Don't take it as this is something that will definitely happen but quite honestly it feels like a BIG possibility the way things are right now.
    I agree with you, I just want the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knicksh2o View Post
    Gotcha

    And to respond to Jukez above: Providing for a family and a future is just as important as getting the job itself. Everyone needs to get the information about the pension system before they sign up for a city job. Its not like its a standard job where your can come and go as you please. Once you sign up, its 25 years. It is probably the biggest decision of all of our lives and having all the information to make the right one is important.
    No one said that our family's future is not important but regardless the benefits are way better than anything out there. You will not find a job which for some of us can retire before you hit 50. Everyone will tell you that you will not become rich doing this job, most firefighters I know have second jobs to make ends meet and make that extra buck. All I'm saying is that I will worry about it once I get on. God forbid you break a leg in the academy, guess what your not going to be on the job and you won't have to worry about the pension at all, so what's more important as of right now?
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    if you hurt yourself in the academy, they dont let you go back into another academy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    if you hurt yourself in the academy, they dont let you go back into another academy?
    I think it depends on how you were doing in the physical and academic side of the academy. If you were doing good then they would recycle you to the next academy.

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    I was training the stair mill yesterday. I knew it would be hard, I used to be able to do 100 pounds. Yesterday I could only do 50 pounds for 4 minutes and then did another set for 3 minutes. Plan on training it every work out till I can do 75 pounds for an extended amount of time.
    How many steps per second is it supposed to be again?
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    59 steps/min.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0hnnyb0y View Post
    59 steps/min.
    Wow so I did even worse than I thought. I set it at 50. 59 sounds hard. After doing the step mill, My CNS was shot and the rest of my work out sucked.
    I am even more surprised that so many people pass that part of the test. More of testament to how much often I need to train for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    I know it's a shame, but it's kind of hard to conceptualize when not yet on the job, and also at a relatively young age. I think the union may be able to negotiate some of those disability/LODD benefits back when financial times are better, and [unfortunately] probably after a tier 3 guy gets seriously hurt or killed. The other advantage right now is that the COLA in tier 3 is way better than 2, and if you make it to 25 years in one piece it's probably a better deal than tier 2. That could be bargained away to get back the disability stuff.
    Giveback are forever. Once we lose a benefit, it's gone and not coming back.

    A tier 3 guy was killed in the line of duty last year. Nothings going to change.

    COLA is the same for tier 2 and 3. It's set by the gov't, isn't it?

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