My brother, who stands 6'3'' and weighs 215 lbs, is able to run a mile in about 6:45. He can do 18-20 pull-ups and 80-100 push-ups and sit-ups, when tested. His job requires that he be able to operate with 40-60 lbs of 'kit," while hiking and sometimes, running, through mountainous terrain for 8-10 hours. If I had to guess, he probably has 18% or so as far as body fat percentage goes. He also was the top man in his academy class, which is considered to one of the toughest law enforcement academies in the country. He happens to incorporate weights into his training regimen, among many other components which he changes up about every 6 weeks.
The point here is 1) People of different body types can perform similar tasks, at similar intensity levels and 2) It is not enough to be proficient in one area of skill - IE - muscular endurance. I consider firefighters to be 'industrial" or 'tactical" athletes. To me, this means our future job requires skill in multiple areas - IE muscular endurance, muscular strength and movement skills (the ability to move and operate under a load). To me, being able to run a mile in 6:15, do 100 push ups and 20 pull-ups is not enough. That surely shows an excellent base of fitness, there's no doubt about that. That is excellent and a person having the ability to perform those tasks will likely do well. But, in the academy and eventually, out in the field, we will be required to operate under loads ranging from 70-125 lbs or more and perform tasks under that load. I also think the development of "hardiness" or mental toughness is important. In my experience, this is what separates one person from another in their abilities.
My understanding is that much of what is done with the PT is to build a base level of fitness, to break the 'bad' habits we've learned out in the world and to break us down, build us into a team that works and operates as one, build a willingness to sacrifice for one another and to develop toughness in all of us, among other things. Then, as time, goes on, this base is slowly built upon, to ensure we are able to operate to the best of our abilities. Essentially, to me, they will be teaching us their way, in the way of the FDNY, which have been tested and developed over many years, by many great men. I personally think it is one of the premier training academies in the world, in terms of developing not just great firefighters, but people.
In the past, at least in my view, the best firefighters were guys who looked rather ordinary, in terms of their physical appearance. Legends like Chief Ray Downey, Captain Patty Brown, and Chief John Pritchard, among many, many others, weren't spectacular in stature by any means, but those men did some amazing things on the fireground, let me tell you that. They also happened to be pretty extraordinary people in general.
If anyone is interested, mountain athlete or military athlete are pretty good websites to check out.
It is awesome to see guys training hard, consistently, intelligently and being ready for whatever might come our way. Enjoy the snow!
By the way guys, who ever is looking to buy a weighted vest they have a 80 lbs vest on amazon for 149.99 plus shipping( around $45 ) . I think that's a pretty good buy, I might spend the money myself since my 60 lbs is a little too beat up and I was looking for something heavier anyways.
What's up guys. I'm new to the forum (first time posting) and just wanted to say hello/good luck to all. Like most of you, I've been waiting for another opportunity since 6019. Greatly anticipating a letter and hoping for January (currently on that other city job). Thanks for all the info!
Another article about the stay. Slightly more in depth but still no indication of the PHs one way or the other. With the hiring monitor out of the picture I wonder if the city can just hire how they want. Hard to tell.
Building on what Minerva said, rugby workouts are also a great way to mix it up. I used to play rugby and the fitness objectives are very very similar; build up your ability to run (long and short distances), build leg and core strength (pretty much above all else), and be able to perform without stopping for over an hour, which requires every type of muscular endurance.
Def a no go on the NJ license that would imply that you live in NJ which you will lose your job for. Secondly stop debating how u should workout run, lift heavy, lift light , do pull-ups do push-ups do sit ups go rock climbing go biking play basketball do yoga just make sure your maxing out that heart rate and your goin as hard as possible without yakking that the perfect balance. As long as you push yourself and have a wide range of fitness you'll be alright you gotta be able to do whatever it is that makes you wanna workout everyday...personally I think you should do all of the above styles of excercise and don't worry about how u look because if your working hard and eating right it does not matter
For a second I thought this was fake, then just couldn't stop laughing lol
That's real. They have firefighting skills competitions all around the world. It's serious ****.
Not trying to be a smart *** but curious what Almost there has heard. If he called the dept or the vulcans, there might be a chance they could tell him wether or not he should still be expecting to go in right away.
According to Sullivan and Galleshaw. Priority hires are still in effect.
Anyone have any idea when CPATs will begin? Also is there any order to CPAT, medical, etc.?
If the FDNY had that on the CPAT, that would be pretty wild
Drill teams the end result of too much money and too much free time.