FDNY Exam 2000

[Joe smith]

Hey guys. Just joined the thread. I have a sub 600 list number and I'm excited to hopefully get some mail soon.

[FDsouthbxNY]

The plight of 6019 people is bulls@*t. However, the one age extension is enough. The age limit is fair and for good reason. Guys I work with who are in their 50's are physically beat up. This job is just hard on the body. I'm in my 30s and I feel worn out from time to time and I'm in good shape.

[nycthirteen]

A thought on age limits:
In Philly there was a group of medics that sued for age discrimination and were successful. I know there is federal law permitting these age limits and preventing suits regarding them. However, from what I gather, the long and short of it was that because the city had already hired older candidates after those laws were enacted, the court ruled that they had set a precedent that showed candidates of an age over their new age limits could be successful on the job. The city now has no age limit on their FD test whatsoever.

Now, there's probably a lot of wrinkles to the whole thing that I don't understand, but perhaps by raising the age extension this once, the city has let the cat out of the bag. If they concede that the thousands of candidates who took 6019 and aged out are still fit for the job, it might be hard for them to argue that everyone else over 29 for some reason isn't. Given what happened in Philly, the powers that be in NYC might realize that preventing another legal situation would be well worth the liability brought on by extending the age limit 5 or 6 years. Again, just a thought (from a guy who likely won't get his number called and will be "too old" next time around).

This is really interesting, thanks for sharing. I guess there is precedent for the lawsuit, so maybe we'll see something like that happen soon here as well...

[SirEd]

Anothering thing is I think military people are excluded from the age requirement or something. I have been told that military guys start at even older age than we old 6019 testers.

So this would also set precedent.

[zachryw2001]

Anothering thing is I think military people are excluded from the age requirement or something.

"All persons who were engaged in military duty as defined in Section 243 of New York State Military Law may deduct from their actual age the length of time spent in such military duty up to a maximum deduction of six years."

I have been told that military guys start at even older age than we old 6019 testers.

And people who took 6019 can sit for Exam 2000 as long as they have not reached their 36th birthday. Military members must not have reached their 35th birthday to sit for Exam 2000.

Almost every state I have ever tested in has the same rule for former military members.

[Nev7248]

Anothering thing is I think military people are excluded from the age requirement or something. I have been told that military guys start at even older age than we old 6019 testers.

So this would also set precedent.

Set precedent for what??? if people don't like the fact that this is done for military personnel.....dont be a coward and serve your country and you will receive the same benefits

[BrooklynBorn]

He did not use the military as a example other than to say that people are obviously capable at older ages. If he is young enough he should join the military, I wish I did.
If he is older, I am sure(or hope) he just meant it as older people are still capable, proof being vets do it, not that vets don't deserve their extension, at least I hope thats how he meant it.

IMO veterans obviously deserve the extension as I think every one agrees, and the reason it won't be extended for everyone, is partly the competition.

[rpnyc1]

No one should be forced to forfeit opportunities like working in the FD because they were serving, and thankfully the laws have been set up to take care of that. The military extension is specified in the laws and not related to the precedent the courts were talking about in Philly.

In Philly, the issue was that after the laws regarding age limits had been passed, the city continued to maintain a certain age limit for civilian and civil servant applicants, and then lowered the age limits a few years later. The court ruled that because they'd voluntarily hired older candidates and couldn't prove any adverse effects of doing so, they had to continue hiring candidates of that age. Basically they said, "you can pick an age limit and stick to it, but you can't hire up to 35 years old one year and then only up to 29 the next." The city chose to abolish age limits all together this time around, which surprised a lot of people. They do have an interview process though, so maybe they just flush guys they think are too old during that phase.

Anyway, the only way I see things changing in NYC (and I'm not saying they should, it's just an interesting possibility that will affect a lot of guys) is if someone can make the argument that extending the age limits for 6019 means it should be extended for all. The argument being that, yes, 6019 guys got a raw deal, but the city still can't hire them if their age is truly a liability. If the city is okay with offering the test to thousands of applicants over 29, then they can't turn around in four years and say "anyone over 29 is too much of a risk to hire." It's one or the other, and the city seemed to make that choice with the 6019 candidates for exam 2000.

[stang0480]

Hey everyone.. Got diagnosed with diabetes a few days ago! Been trying to speak with someone at Metrotech but not much luck. Am I outta the game now with this diagnosis or is it still possible to get on the dept with this? Any help would be appreciated.

Exam - 2000
List - 79xx

[KingHenrik]

Watch Forks Over Knives :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7ijukNzlUg

Maybe changing your diet can help? Worth a shot.

[grok350]

Just curious how many of you have your weight vest and have been doing stairs? Also which gyms are you guys going to that have a stairmill? I'm going with nysc
Just got mine in the mail along with the heart monitor someone said they use at the medical. I was able to pick up a 80lb vest on ebay for around $160 shipped.

[River6019]

Just curious how many of you have your weight vest and have been doing stairs? Also which gyms are you guys going to that have a stairmill? I'm going with nysc
Just got mine in the mail along with the heart monitor someone said they use at the medical. I was able to pick up a 80lb vest on ebay for around $160 shipped.

I'm pretty broke right now so for me its been, a couple of 35lbs dumbbells wrapped in a towel and put in a backpack. Then I walk to the longest staircase in my neighborhood (unfortunately only 14 steps high) and walk up and down it for 10 minutes. Thankfully my GF has a heart monitor I can borrow.

Pretty Ghetto but I feel like its getting the job done.

[grok350]

I'm pretty broke right now so for me its been, a couple of 35lbs dumbbells wrapped in a towel and put in a backpack. Then I walk to the longest staircase in my neighborhood (unfortunately only 14 steps high) and walk up and down it for 10 minutes. Thankfully my GF has a heart monitor I can borrow.

Pretty Ghetto but I feel like its getting the job done.

I hear ya lol. I had to ask for mine as an early xmas present. I was thinking of finding a set of stairs to train with it, but I hear going down the steps is especially hard on the knees which is why I need to shell out some money to join a gym with the stairmill

[HopefulFF]

2x a week I work out on a stairs machine like the one we'll use for the cpat/med. im up to 58lbs for 10 minutes (4 minutes without touching the rails). Then ill drop down to body weight and up the speed any where between 7-10 for another 10 minutes. Im trying to add about 4lbs per week to the vest until I get to 75lbs. Ideally I'd be on the stairs for 10 minutes at 75lbs without touching the sides. Baby steps though haha

[Joe smith]

Does anyone know if bring prescribed antidepressants in the past can disqualify someone from being hired? I'm pretty sure that that can be considered descrimination but I'm curious if anyone has any info on it or knows someone who has been through the same situation

[mocon337]

I hear ya lol. I had to ask for mine as an early xmas present. I was thinking of finding a set of stairs to train with it, but I hear going down the steps is especially hard on the knees which is why I need to shell out some money to join a gym with the stairmill

Has anyone trained on both types of step mills, and if so is there that much of a difference? My gym only has the old school one, not like the CPAT type. Still should do the trick as far as training right?

[J0hnnyb0y]

Does anyone know if bring prescribed antidepressants in the past can disqualify someone from being hired? I'm pretty sure that that can be considered descrimination but I'm curious if anyone has any info on it or knows someone who has been through the same situation

i'm not sure but i would imagine the psychiatrist would want to have a serious chat with that person if they were.

Edit: don't take my word too seriously. i just remembered how anxious i used to get reading through the old thread 4 years ago just to find out i was worrying myself over joey jerkoff's opinion spouted off as fact. the reason i said that about the psychiatrist was only because of what i've read about people sending up red flags when they take the written psych and being asked to come in and speak with the M.D.

[FutureFirefighter2000]

So I've herd two rumors churning out of the rumor mill this week. Only 200 people have so far passed the medical from the EMT list. And also they don't have enough people to fill the first class I herd this from an instructor at the rock.

[mocon337]

So I've herd two rumors churning out of the rumor mill this week. Only 200 people have so far passed the medical from the EMT list. And also they don't have enough people to fill the first class I herd this from an instructor at the rock.

Same dude. Spoke to a lt. in W-Burg yesterday. He didn't give any numbers but he said they were really having trouble filling up the entire class. He also said don't be surprised if hundreds of guys with high #s are unable to prove residency for the OC.

[BrooklynBorn]

Hey everyone.. Got diagnosed with diabetes a few days ago! Been trying to speak with someone at Metrotech but not much luck. Am I outta the game now with this diagnosis or is it still possible to get on the dept with this? Any help would be appreciated.

Exam - 2000
List - 79xx

which type do you have. That sucks, are you insulin dependent.