Do us all one favor though. Make your decision, whatever it is, but stick to it. Don't take a spot from a guy then drop out of the Academy. I'm not a big name caller, but if you turn this down to finish ONE SINGLE semester of college, I have to question whether or not you're even smart enough to be on this job.
Can I ask why every one is so against the PH. Don't all Ph have to take the same test and requirement just like every one else?
I hope I answered this clearly and well enough that the entire next 3 pages doesn't have to be everyone else ranting.
Have you seen the score of the ph. Out of 729 people that took the test 369 score 95 or above. Some 120 with score of 102 and better. I only ask because I read the thread and see so much bashing toward the Ph.
Have any one took a look at the ph forum site that they post on???
You are right some didn't score well enough but some did in was pass over. Thats why i ask have anyone view there forum for ph.
i went searching for both; the forum and test results. I couldnt find either. PH test results arent even posted on nyc.gov with the rest of 2000 or 2500. Help us out whymetoo
Anyone in the LIC/Astoria area going to the orientation at noon tomorrow? Willing to pick up a guy in LIC? Throw ya a few bucks for gas.
Edit: Hope they don't mine jeans and a button up. That's about all I got for civilian clothes right now and I REALLY don't want to be that guy wearing a uniform.
What is so hard to understand. What if they told your mother or father that they had to fire them because they weren't the right color and hire some one who fit their idea of what looks PC. Then everyone has to work with someone who is less qualified and is moraly arrogant. Whats the point of doing anything to better yourself or work hard if they are hiring based on skin color.
They should be called Charity hires, who's priority is it to hire these people. Violating an individuals civil rights and fair chance at a job for group politics.
On another note fellas ... Who ran today ???? Came out of work ran the 1.5 in 11:45 hey after picking up 15 tons of garbage I think that's GREEEATTTTT !!! Plus squats !!! Now I feel like I got ranned over !!! ... Lights out for until later on ... Don't let whymetoo ruin the afternoon fellas its gorgeous outside !!!
Every one who opens their mouth with an opinion in oposition of merit based hiring is either Full of it or doesn't even know how NYC hires it's civil servants. I was speaking to a lawyer about it and he didn't even know about civil service testing yet he called FDNY a bunch of Nazis, then had a stupid look on his face when explained that every civil service employee was hired that way through DCAS. He also didn't know what DCAS was, most people don't and thus they are not educated enough to have an opinion.
Hey guys, thanks for the reply.
i be going to the gym about 4 days a week and run each time at least 1.5 miles. but after the 1.5 mile and at 13 mins 20 seconds im a bit tired. like i struggle a bit, but im still doing it..im going to start running outside again...i have no time to slack cuz im expecting to receive notices after july after the next class goes in, since im in the high 700's with a score of 102... im working on it guys. i will try to keep updating.
(and it looks like whymetoo is a PH)
I've tried my best to stay as quite as possible on the entire PH situation. And being humble and Shuting TFU are not strong suits of mine. Im gonna break this down. I scored near perfect on this exam. I have a sickly high IQ(top 2%), as i suspect most of the people who did extremely well on the exam do as well. MY STRONG SUITS are mathematics, logic, deductive reasons and psychology. Tis why I played poker for a living for an extended amount of time.
HERE IS WHERE UR **** BREAKS DOWN!!!!
given both pieces of information above(both quotes). On what fu.cked up bell curve do only 2/3 of the people taken the exam pass. And other other remaining sample... Whymetoo according the numbers you listed 16.4% of the test takers score in what would have been the top 2.5% of the OC list which had over 40,000 test takers. Do you not see the problem with these numbers? The theory of large numbers tells us that there is something wrong with this number distribution.
Moreover, the vulcan soceity has been less than fair.
Example A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDqzKlbvRqI
Example B. I have two FFs who are mentoring me threw the process(thank god). But one of them that lives in my building. A few days before I went to take exam 2000 one of them said to me(i just happened to bump into him), "Did you receive an email regarding the 2nd part of the test?" Well the email was forwarded to him from someone. It was an email that the vulcan society sent out. Giving information about how to score well on the second part of the exam. If I did not get a chance to look at this piece of information I most likely would have answered some of those questions differently.
Lastly, no one really knew how the format of the exam was going to be. Most of us had some idea, but were taking the exam "in the dark". The PHs that were going to take the exam, I'm sure were taught exactly what was going to be on it. And exactly how to do well.
I am gathering by his grammar, spelling, and general lack of facts Whymetoo is likely a PH. You'll get no useful info from him.
this guy sums it all up
Both seem to have the same self entitlement vibe going on.
To answer the question: Because you FAILED the first time!
Being given head of the line privilege over those that have persevered and worked their tails off is just plain wrong.
The way our system works, you were not passed over unless you had not met all the requirements necessary (i.e.: age, CFR, etc), did not keep in contact or didn't update your address or actually deferred on your own. It's not because you were "discriminated against".
Do they have to take the same test and requirement just like everyone else?
But they should not have been given the opportunity in the first place. It is only happening because some misguided judge thinks the 50's & 60's aren't over.