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    Quote Originally Posted by almostthere View Post
    Great analysis, but keep in mind that all of use are giving a substantial amount of time to prepare ourselves physically. A lot of guys are putting a lot of focus on age and health, but you have to remember the CPAT is easy. All it takes is two month max to get in shape for the CPAT for someone who is not considered physically fit. I see the potential of becoming a firefighter is motivating you in the gym. You are not the only one. I went above in beyond this morning in the gym while thinking about this who process. Just keep preparing yourself physically and when your time comes for the CPAT and the academy, it would be easy. keep up the good work.

    Also, the PH doesn't have options of either getting the payout or the job. It is both. So, if the lawsuit falls in our favor, I am sure most are going to except the pay out and more than likely except the job offer also.
    Oh i most of mistyped. I didnt mean to say there was an option of one or the other. I just meant I can see many just taking the settlement and moving on. Because realistically only 1 in 3 take the job on OC list so there is no reason to think this will be any different(or a much higher ratio)

    And plz almostthere dont take my analysis as any sort of attack on you. I have kept my mouth shut threw all of the posts i have seen regarding the PHs. How i feel about the whole situation is neither here nor there.

    My BS is in physical education and I have an extensive background in kinesiology. So what i was trying to say is that honestly the 90% HR max test on the stair mill will not favor someone of a higher age(note this test is on the medical not the CPAT). Not that he/she wont be able to. Just the way HR max is determined there is a large +/- that is not taken into consideration.


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    Quote Originally Posted by almostthere View Post
    Great analysis, but keep in mind that all of use are giving a substantial amount of time to prepare ourselves physically. A lot of guys are putting a lot of focus on age and health, but you have to remember the CPAT is easy. All it takes is two month max to get in shape for the CPAT for someone who is not considered physically fit. I see the potential of becoming a firefighter is motivating you in the gym. You are not the only one. I went above in beyond this morning in the gym while thinking about this who process. Just keep preparing yourself physically and when your time comes for the CPAT and the academy, it would be easy. keep up the good work.

    Also, the PH doesn't have options of either getting the payout or the job. It is both. So, if the lawsuit falls in our favor, I am sure most are going to except the pay out and more than likely except the job offer also.
    The benefits of a priority hire: Not only are you guys going to get a payout as if you worked in the FDNY for the past 10+ years but when you actually get on the job you are going to get top pay because you will have the seniority of 10+ years.

    “Seniority was earned in the dead of night when these benefactors were home sleeping,” said firefighter Matthew Bland, a nine-year veteran.

    I wonder why the second circuit court is taking so long to make a decision. Just wondering. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostthere View Post
    I agree and I expect nothing less from the FDNY. And if hired, I intend to give my all and represent the FDNY with respect and dignity.
    Then best of luck to you. I actually agree with some points that the Vulcans have, however I disagree with their charge of intentional racism on the part of the department/city. I also disagree with the priority hiring, but I am not a federal judge, so my opinion on the matter is somewhat irrelevant. While I disagree with the ruling, I don't fault people like you for taking advantage of an opportunity presented to you, I think anyone else would do the same. If it's really what you want I hope you put the work in when the time comes.
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    Almost there, I am not sure what I meant meant by "nothing else", I was just curious.

    Cold blood, what borough do you live in? I wanna be in your training group when the time comes .
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldblood92 View Post
    Oh i most of mistyped. I didnt mean to say there was an option of one or the other. I just meant I can see many just taking the settlement and moving on. Because realistically only 1 in 3 take the job on OC list so there is no reason to think this will be any different(or a much higher ratio)

    And plz almostthere dont take my analysis as any sort of attack on you. I have kept my mouth shut threw all of the posts i have seen regarding the PHs. How i feel about the whole situation is neither here nor there.

    My BS is in physical education and I have an extensive background in kinesiology. So what i was trying to say is that honestly the 90% HR max test on the stair mill will not favor someone of a higher age(note this test is on the medical not the CPAT). Not that he/she wont be able to. Just the way HR max is determined there is a large +/- that is not taken into consideration.
    I didn't take your analysis as an attack, I actually thought it was a great breakdown. And by no means, express yourself in regards to the PH/lawsuit situation. Nothing wrong with venting and expressing your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostthere View Post
    Sorry to say but the PH will have seniority also. In other words, the PH will come in at max salary. But, we still have to wait 2-3 years before we can take any promotional test (lieutenant).
    Dude - if you have problems with an FDNY OC exam, you really honestly think you'll do well on a Promo one??? In the words of the NFL Live crew, Cmonnnn Mannn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyD0pe View Post
    The benefits of a priority hire: Not only are you guys going to get a payout as if you worked in the FDNY for the past 10+ years but when you actually get on the job you are going to get top pay because you will have the seniority of 10+ years.

    “Seniority was earned in the dead of night when these benefactors were home sleeping,” said firefighter Matthew Bland, a nine-year veteran.

    I wonder why the second circuit court is taking so long to make a decision. Just wondering. . .
    I agree. There are firefighter who put blood, sweat in tears on this job. In regards to the rulings and second circuit, I have not idea. I am actually getting this information from you guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vekdoggs75 View Post
    Dude - if you have problems with an FDNY OC exam, you really honestly think you'll do well on a Promo one??? In the words of the NFL Live crew, Cmonnnn Mannn.
    LOL, what makes you think I had problems with the exam. I believe you should research the entirety of the lawsuit. But for your information, I passed both exams and during the first exam I went on the interview. Other than that, i am not sure why I wasnt hired or went to the next stop of the hiring process. Maybe the Vulcan Society knows something I don't know. who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostthere View Post
    I agree. There are firefighter who put blood, sweat in tears on this job. In regards to the rulings and second circuit, I have not idea. I am actually getting this information from you guys.
    I can tell by the way you express yourself that you are a well-educated individual and you resemble a good attitude. You seem to reason well with both sides in regards to the whole FDNY discrimination case. Hopefully, your good attitude is indicative of those of the rest of the Priority Hires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderneck30 View Post
    Will the instructors even know whos a PH from whos not? I dont think that knowledge goes past those involved in the applicant process division. It certainly shouldnt go past the instructors at least although i doubt theyll even know. I mean, i dont think any of the houses are gonna recieve memos saying "Youre getting 6 probies (2 of which were priority hires shhhh..)".

    I dont think theyre that screwed up. But i could be wrong. That would be kinda funny tho lol.

    Most likely those who get in as PH's wont hear anything from anybody at the house for the rest of their career unless they open their mouths. The issue itself will most definetely continue to be talked about but i wouldnt worry about any personal attacks of retaliation from any of thethers themselves, the instructors or the department for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostthere View Post
    LOL, what makes you think I had problems with the exam. I believe you should research the entirety of the lawsuit. But for your information, I passed both exams and during the first exam I went on the interview. Other than that, i am not sure why I wasnt hired or went to the next stop of the hiring process. Maybe the Vulcan Society knows something I don't know. who knows
    When you meet your investigator you should definitely get to the bottom of why you didn't get hired assuming you passed the CPAT, Medical, Background, etc. It could be your exam expired and there was no space left in the last class to put you in or it could be other reasons you don't know.

    When I withdrew myself from the NYPD process I received a letter of disqualification as priority mail which I had to confirm and sign that I received it. Does anyone know if FDNY is suppose to send you a DQ letter if you get disqualified and explain the reason being?
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    Quote Originally Posted by knicksh2o View Post
    If they can't spell and have grey hair, they are a priority hire
    Knock it off. There's a difference with having a problem with the priority hiring and trying to find fault with the people who will make up that list itself. And who are you to judge at this point? Almost a month in and I can say without a doubt the academy is the toughest thing I've ever done. Plenty of people who were all excited to be here on day one are no longer here. Unless you've been in the military it's probably going to be more difficult than you realize, and overwhelming on several fronts. I think it's BS to criticize or judge others who also want the job when you yourself have yet to go through the process and come out the other side of it.
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    hey MM, we were trying to ballpark the figure before but you'd prob know better than us, taking in to account who will/will not have their 2 years for promo by this summer how many EMS eligibles do you think there will be for the July academy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HopefulFF View Post
    hey MM, we were trying to ballpark the figure before but you'd prob know better than us, taking in to account who will/will not have their 2 years for promo by this summer how many EMS eligibles do you think there will be for the July academy?
    Going to cut to the chase and guess that very few OC people will ultimately be called for July if the city tries to get all of the PHs out of the way in one shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostthere View Post
    LOL, what makes you think I had problems with the exam. I believe you should research the entirety of the lawsuit. But for your information, I passed both exams and during the first exam I went on the interview. Other than that, i am not sure why I wasnt hired or went to the next stop of the hiring process. Maybe the Vulcan Society knows something I don't know. who knows
    Did your phone break? Why didn't you call CID after your investigation was done? Were you expecting the Limo to stop outside your house and let you know your investigation went well or went down the ****ter? I have been through this process, as well as other guys on here, and we all know once you go to Metrotech, you literally harass their asses with phone calls to retrieve your information. It's up to the candidate, not CID, to make sure you fulfill each step of the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    Going to cut to the chase and guess that very few OC people will ultimately be called for July if the city tries to get all of the PHs out of the way in one shot.
    thanks. that's what my guess was as well.

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    After the ems list is exhausted and the PH list is exhausted there could be very few spots left for OC candidates. If there is less then 50 spots left I wouldn't be surprised if they have the July class smaller then normal. The reason behind this is to extend the OC list as long as possible to save money.

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    I don't believe the ratio is a 1/4 ratio. I believe it to be much closer to 1/3. Someone said they processed 920 for his class of 320. Easier physical etc. Probably a lower ratio at the top of list with legacies and veterans/dv who might be that extra bit more motivated. Just shooting the **** to some of the stuff i read earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyD0pe View Post
    When you meet your investigator you should definitely get to the bottom of why you didn't get hired assuming you passed the CPAT, Medical, Background, etc. It could be your exam expired and there was no space left in the last class to put you in or it could be other reasons you don't know.

    When I withdrew myself from the NYPD process I received a letter of disqualification as priority mail which I had to confirm and sign that I received it. Does anyone know if FDNY is suppose to send you a DQ letter if you get disqualified and explain the reason being?
    My NYPD investigator just stopped calling me back. I was assuming it was because I was not timely enough with my paper work or my list expired. Does it matter, the reason I ask is because I have retaken the test.

    On a side note can some one remind of what month it was that this list 2000 was published? not officially but when we all saw it? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    My NYPD investigator just stopped calling me back. I was assuming it was because I was not timely enough with my paper work or my list expired. Does it matter, the reason I ask is because I have retaken the test.

    On a side note can some one remind of what month it was that this list 2000 was published? not officially but when we all saw it? thanks
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