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    Quote Originally Posted by teufelhunden36 View Post
    For the guys going to orientation this is important: parts of your packet REQUIRE you to get them notarized. Make sure you do it as there is no notary onsite for you to use and even if they do, they won't be happy it wasn't done before you got there. The brothers at Metrotech WILL send you on your way if it isn't done. It all starts right here. They're looking for who can follow simple written instruction and who can't. Be the guy who shows up dressed right, with all listed info prepared and set up the way they tell you they want it and your name won't stand out. Right now, you don't want anybody to have a reason for your name to stick in their head. Just about every bank has a notary you can use for free and I know Chase and TD for sure don't require you to have an account with them to use it.

    One other thing. There's been a lot of wondering about convictions/arrest/summons. If you had ANYTHING, even a ticket for loitering or something stupid like that that ended up being dismissed, go to the court house and get a copy of the disposition. Costs about $10. That way you have it with you and you can present it if your investigator thinks they might need it.
    I just went through the entire packet I was sent and there is nothing to be notarized. Starting to think I'm missing something. The only two things that need a signature is the CPAT waiver (signed by your doctor) & page 19 of the CPD-B but I called and thy said they sign it when they receive your packet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopefulFF View Post
    psych exam too. Maybe someone else can back me up on this but I think they can go in any order, but your medical will not come before your CPAT. I remember someone telling me they wouldn't waste time/resources putting people through medicals if they haven't already passed the physical exam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycthirteen View Post
    Definitely agree with getting ahead of the game - making sure you have Certificates of Disposition for all arrests, having your HS degree (even if you have a college degree), digging out your SS card, DMV Driver Abstract, DD214 if military, etc.

    The package we received this time didn't specifically ask us to bring any of these in for the initial intake interview, but I'll bring any/all in regardless. Can't hurt to be over prepared in this instance. However (and this was different than 6019, if I remember correctly) there actually isn't anything to get notarized just yet… just signed/initialed.
    I clearly remember having to get the medical questionnaire notarized. It may or may not be the case now. Either way, if it says it needs to be notarized, then notarize it. A few guys I went to orientation with didn't have it done and they were sent home. They were allowed to come back at a later date and they're all on the job now, but why make it hard on yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannypanigale View Post
    Oh ok ... So since its base on a speculation that means it can also go the other way in which they might need to process more people to complete a class??? Once again just asking
    for the 07 exam they had sent out a certain number of packets and about 2 months into the process they realized they may need more and sent out a few hundred more to people
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    The director of investigators is a notary, there are things you sign when you are there.

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    On page 2 of the CPD-B theres a question: "Have you ever used your veteran's preference credit before for a civil service appointment or promotion with NY state or any of its political subdivision?".

    I also took the NYPD exam and marked that I am a veteran. I haven't gone through any of the process for NYPD yet. Should I answer "Yes" for this question? or "No" since I haven't been appointed or promoted by NYPD?

    Also, I am currently attending school (college) to get my emt cert. Should I list this under education eventhough I havent completed this class yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mannyjay View Post
    On page 2 of the CPD-B theres a question: "Have you ever used your veteran's preference credit before for a civil service appointment or promotion with NY state or any of its political subdivision?".

    I also took the NYPD exam and marked that I am a veteran. I haven't gone through any of the process for NYPD yet. Should I answer "Yes" for this question? or "No" since I haven't been appointed or promoted by NYPD?

    Also, I am currently attending school (college) to get my emt cert. Should I list this under education eventhough I havent completed this class yet?
    You would mark no on that. It's only a yes if you have used your points previously to get into a job. Only if you have started and are on that job using the points counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mannyjay View Post
    On page 2 of the CPD-B theres a question: "Have you ever used your veteran's preference credit before for a civil service appointment or promotion with NY state or any of its political subdivision?".

    I also took the NYPD exam and marked that I am a veteran. I haven't gone through any of the process for NYPD yet. Should I answer "Yes" for this question? or "No" since I haven't been appointed or promoted by NYPD?

    Also, I am currently attending school (college) to get my emt cert. Should I list this under education eventhough I havent completed this class yet?
    No you're ok. You may use your preference once at the federal and once at the state/local level. When you mark yes on the application all you're doing is saying you're eligible for it. Until you swear in somewhere you haven't used it. In fact, when you get to the academy investigations will come in and tell you if you needed the points or not to get on. If you didn't need them, they'll tell you and you can save them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFwnt2b View Post
    The director of investigators is a notary, there are things you sign when you are there.
    That's good. I bring it up because it happened to guys when I went through orientation. I was simply trying to let you guys know that having your paperwork in good order will make your investigator's life easier. He/she will in turn be inclined to make YOUR life easier.
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    Hows about we all just follow the information which was provided in our packets. What ever they say bring, bring. Whatever they say sign,sign. Whatever they DONT ask for, DO NOT bring. Whatever information they want, make sure it is listed in on the apropriate pages which has been designated for it.

    For example, if they ask for criminal summons on one page, dont list a traffic summons on the same page just becuz they both have the word summons. Similarly, and u can listen or not, dont list military service along with civilian employment if a seperate sheet has already been provided for that information. There is a reason for that. The employment sheets are clearly for civilian employment only. There is no room for specific military information on those forms. What would you put for hours worked? Supervisors name? List of time for each duty? and questions like that. Not to mention there is no place to put service number,branch of service, medals & awards, military specialty, rank and type of discharge. You can try to put all that on the civilian employment sheet if u want but ill save that info for the correct sheet that has the appropriate sections.

    If they ask about convictions only, then tell them about convictiona only. If its says just sign and doeant say notarized, then just sign it and dont get it notarized. JUST FOLLOW THE DIRECTION THAT WERE GIVEN TO YOU BY THE FDNY. Other guys are trying to help, but undwrstand that we got a different packet from all the previous guys otj which contain certain instructions only relevant to our packets. Mixing info/directions will get you confused and you will show up with paperwork filled out incorrectly, forms notarized that are not suppossed to be, information mixed up etc., Worst yet is that you worry about what you DONT need while forgetting/misplacing that which you do. Whatever else they want from you, they will ask you for it. Dont go crazy. Theyre not expecting nothing they didnt ask for.

    Just follow your last command, which was the instructions contained within the packet they gave you. When they ask you "Why did you do this?" or "Who told you to do that?" or "Why did you put this on that page" etc., u dont wanna say somebody else told you to or that i got it from online. Attention to detail will be a major part of thia process if it is anything like the military.
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    I made a minor mistake in my packet and I was wondering what you guys thought I should do.

    Under the employment section on page 6 I accidentally skipped that page and listed my current employment on page 7. Then continued to list my previous employers on page 8 and 9. So I basically wrote information on page 7 that should have been on page 6. Both pages are the exact same, but I wasn't sure if it were a big deal that I skipped over the first place that I could have written it. Filling the packet out was quite tedious and I honestly didn't realize my mistake until now. I don't want to be on someones radar for "not being able to do what I was asked to do" simply because I made a mistake. Any advice from anyone? Should I cross out page 6 with an N/A? Or leave it blank?


    Edit: My father reccomend that I copy the same information from page 7 onto page 6. Thoughts?
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    Spiderneck is correct. I just called CID and just list military under military.

    Sorry I doubted you spider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycthirteen View Post
    Definitely agree with getting ahead of the game - making sure you have Certificates of Disposition for all arrests, having your HS degree (even if you have a college degree), digging out your SS card, DMV Driver Abstract, DD214 if military, etc.

    The package we received this time didn't specifically ask us to bring any of these in for the initial intake interview, but I'll bring any/all in regardless. Can't hurt to be over prepared in this instance. However (and this was different than 6019, if I remember correctly) there actually isn't anything to get notarized just yet… just signed/initialed.
    I completely agree. I am in the EMS academy now, which uses the same investigators if I am not mistaken, and you will be asked for random things that are not on the list. For example I had to being a notarized letter from my father saying that he supported me finically through college even though I was working and supporting myself but because I was living at home. Another example being that I had got rear ended and despite having a full police report I had to bring in a notarized statement saying what happened.

    Make a check list of everything they ask for and make at least 2 copies of it because they generally always lose something. They will ask you to notarize things which they didnt say needed to be so if you can do it for free it definitely wouldn't hurt to do it ahead of time. They do have a notary there but they will not let you use him for any of the packet stuff. He is there solely to notarize dept papers that they give you right there and will have you do at that moment.

    Over prepared is way better than under.
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    And I'm sure the EMS packet is not much different than fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teufelhunden36 View Post
    One other thing. There's been a lot of wondering about convictions/arrest/summons. If you had ANYTHING, even a ticket for loitering or something stupid like that that ended up being dismissed, go to the court house and get a copy of the disposition. Costs about $10. That way you have it with you and you can present it if your investigator thinks they might need it.
    This i would definetely do. But as he said, have it with you IF they think they may need it. Dont just walk in and give them 5 sheets of dispositions for dismissed summonses if they dont ask for it. Give them what they asked you for ONLY, whuch is conviction/arrest history. And if they ask for more, at least in this case you will already have it in your personal folder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teufelhunden36 View Post
    That's good. I bring it up because it happened to guys when I went through orientation. I was simply trying to let you guys know that having your paperwork in good order will make your investigator's life easier. He/she will in turn be inclined to make YOUR life easier.
    There is nothing in that packet that needs to be notarized, when you get there for your intake, they give you a form to sign. He says to sign it there and he will notarize it.
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    A few months ago I posted a list of documents that we were asked to bring to the first interview for 6019 processing. For some reason we are not asked to bring those to the first intake for 2000, but I am positive that we'll still need them at some point. I am bringing those documents to my first intake on 23 March just in case I can submit them at that time and push my process along; if I can't submit them at that time, carrying an extra folder of papers isn't going to kill me. I'd suggest others at least start collecting those papers. Look back on my posts to see what they were, but it included dispositions, Social Security card, Selectove Service registration, DMV drivers abstract, high school and college transcripts, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFwnt2b View Post
    There is nothing in that packet that needs to be notarized, when you get there for your intake, they give you a form to sign. He says to sign it there and he will notarize it.

    Great. So don't notarize it. Once again, it was a suggestion from somebody who's been there. When I went, you had to have certain forms notarized BEFORE you went in. If that has changed, then there's no reason to do it. The message was simply to have your paperwork prepared the way they wanted it. If they're no longer asking for things to be notarized, very obviously don't do it.

    Is this cleared up now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtk123 View Post
    I made a minor mistake in my packet and I was wondering what you guys thought I should do.

    Under the employment section on page 6 I accidentally skipped that page and listed my current employment on page 7. Then continued to list my previous employers on page 8 and 9. So I basically wrote information on page 7 that should have been on page 6. Both pages are the exact same, but I wasn't sure if it were a big deal that I skipped over the first place that I could have written it. Filling the packet out was quite tedious and I honestly didn't realize my mistake until now. I don't want to be on someones radar for "not being able to do what I was asked to do" simply because I made a mistake. Any advice from anyone? Should I cross out page 6 with an N/A? Or leave it blank?


    Edit: My father reccomend that I copy the same information from page 7 onto page 6. Thoughts?
    I would leave it blank if you had enough pages for your employment. Just write your name, SSN, and initial the bottom. I wouldn't copy it and have two pages with the same info, it might get confusing. Just my .02 cents. If you live near Brooklyn, I know they had extra forms in the auditorium, maybe you can stop in and grab the pages you need. But if you can't, I would leave it blank, and explain to them what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtk123 View Post
    I made a minor mistake in my packet and I was wondering what you guys thought I should do.

    Under the employment section on page 6 I accidentally skipped that page and listed my current employment on page 7. Then continued to list my previous employers on page 8 and 9. So I basically wrote information on page 7 that should have been on page 6. Both pages are the exact same, but I wasn't sure if it were a big deal that I skipped over the first place that I could have written it. Filling the packet out was quite tedious and I honestly didn't realize my mistake until now. I don't want to be on someones radar for "not being able to do what I was asked to do" simply because I made a mistake. Any advice from anyone? Should I cross out page 6 with an N/A? Or leave it blank?


    Edit: My father reccomend that I copy the same information from page 7 onto page 6. Thoughts?
    They won't hang you for an honest mistake. What they don't like is when things they asked for aren't there. If you made a mistake, take it in and say "I made a mistake on this". Don't overthink this. Nobody in there is looking to beat you down. That comes later.
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