Anyone agree, disagree? I'm not sure myself
Anyone agree, disagree? I'm not sure myself
You have a good score and congrats on that, you should be just as upset about the PH situation as the rest of us since they will be jumping ahead of you as well.
I do admit I was a bit general regarding the racist/negative comments but I did say it could be just a few people giving the FDNY a bad name, I was also referring to the comment of the commissioner's son. I was just talking in general.
Thank you and good luck to everyone,
Sorry should have replied using the 'Reply with Quote' just getting the hang of this
Thank you for sharing this story. I'm hopeful that this story is more common than it appears. There is certainly a lot of hard luck in there. Being short a few credits is his fault, as you stated, but having lost out on an opportunity due to deployment is deserving of some recognition. If he is just 35 now, he would have been eligible to take the OC exam because the age limit was increased for those who took exam 6019, but were not hired due to the lawsuit. Look, the issue here is not who he is or how motivated he is, because (thankfully) he sounds extremely motivated. The issue is that there are, no doubt, many stories that share at least some similarity with his, but he's getting a second chance because he falls into one of two catagories that are defined by race. Had his story been the same, but were he Asian, Caucasian, Indian, ect, he would not have gotten this second chance. There lies the sole issue where people take excpetion with the judges order and priority hiring.
Okay....that said, I'll say this from my point of view: The firehouse environment is a uniquelly amazing place, the great equalizer. I've worked in a lot of places, but none is more exciting, scary and difficult, yet filled with support and true brotherhood. While this hiring remedy will never sit comfortably with me, that shouldn't hamper someone's ability (on an individual basis) to come through the doors of a firehouse and prove themselves and be judged just as everyone else was for 100+ years before them. That means that anyone, regardless of the hiring track that led them here, will start their career with the ability to do the right thing, listen, learn and become part of the brotherhood. If the attitude that accompanies the next proby that get assigned to my house is not one of entitlement, but that of someone excited to be there and anxious be part of this team, I'm encouraged.
pm is on now
Just wondering how the CPAT orientations were going? I have one saturday and one wednesday next week. Probably attending the saturday one.
If you think racism doesn't exist what so ever in the FDNY then you need to come back to planet earth. Just like sexism and every other ism out there it's EVERYWHERE, not just in the all mighty fire department. Those few A*holes make everyone else look bad and that's just life. One cop kicks someone in the face guess what, automatically ALL cops are called on police brutality and people want to take action on it.
As far as racism, there are bad apples in every bunch. On this job they stay hidden because the rest of us get after them when they open their mouths.
With regards to the PHs, our objection to their hiring has NOTHING to do with skin color. Our ONLY problem with it is that they scored low on the test and are now being handed the job because they are what the courts deem "minorities". The white kids who got the same exact scores on the test as the priority hires ARE NOT on this job because of it. That one group is being favored over another is what we object too, not that that group being handed the job is black. I'd object just as much if Irishmen were hired this way.
You yourself, with a 99, have a list number in the 3xxxs; a PH on here got an 85 on the "discriminatory" test. He's processing in now and you'll wait at least 2 years. That seem fair to you? I'm sure it doesn't to people who got your score and higher on the open competitive test.
85? That's a great score!
I'm willing to bet we're going to have at least one 70 by the time they get all the PH's processed and eligible.
letssee: Even with a 99, are you happy to sit idly by as 293 people that scored lower than you waltz onto this job before you?
Not saying I know any of their scores, but this is a more than possible scenario.
I heard on most stair masters they come programmed with a cpat program that you can access by pushing the "up" button then "9" and "1" and then "enter" and it will automatically start the 3:20. Anyone heard of or tried this?
Just curious what everyone got on their first practice CPAT run ? I had a 8:51
A little of topic but I am kinda into strength training. I wanted to enter a few power lifting competitions. I have like 2-3 years before I possibly get called.
My question is, if I were to rip a hamstring or ligament, would that possible DQ me? OR anything else you guys think can go wrong? thanks
I had my first try last night and came in at 8:00 minutes. I thought it was interesting that we have to fill out scantrons now.
However, besides personal gratification, I suppose it doesn't really matter how fast you do it. Doing it in 10:19 is the same as 7:00, as there is no weight given to running it faster now.