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    Quote Originally Posted by FDNY-USCG View Post
    Check your mailboxes. I just received my cpat dates from DCAS. Good luck to everyone.
    you're a good news machine today.


    Thought of another Q....can your heart rate go over the limit during the 5 minutes, as long as when you finish on the stairs, and they mark it, it's under?


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    Quote Originally Posted by HopefulFF View Post
    you're a good news machine today.


    Thought of another Q....can your heart rate go over the limit during the 5 minutes, as long as when you finish on the stairs, and they mark it, it's under?
    It can exceed the limit during the exam, but at the 5:12 mark it needs to be under in order for you to pass. I've heard of guys taking real deep breaths or acting like they were going to take a dump in order to drop their heart rate right before the 5:12 mark. Technically it should work but that is something you will have to try on your own. If you have a heart rate monitor I will suggest that you go to the gym and try it out. Replicate the situation and see if it works for you. With my luck I would have taken a **** on myself. I had mexican food the night before.
    Exam #2000
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    CPAT-4/30/2013
    Background-3/6/2013
    Medical-4/4/2013
    Written psych-4/7/2013
    1.5 mile run-7/15/2013
    Academy-7/29/2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDNY-USCG View Post
    It can exceed the limit during the exam, but at the 5:12 mark it needs to be under in order for you to pass. I've heard of guys taking real deep breaths or acting like they were going to take a dump in order to drop their heart rate right before the 5:12 mark. Technically it should work but that is something you will have to try on your own. If you have a heart rate monitor I will suggest that you go to the gym and try it out. Replicate the situation and see if it works for you. With my luck I would have taken a **** on myself. I had mexican food the night before.
    Did they give you instructions on how to re-schedule the cpat on the letter? If so what are the options if you dont mind me asking

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    Quote Originally Posted by mannyjay View Post
    Did they give you instructions on how to re-schedule the cpat on the letter? If so what are the options if you dont mind me asking
    It says to call 718-786-2701 no earlier than April 23, 2013 to reschedule, but no later than your final cpat date. If you can't attend any of your sessions, you need to write a letter to DCAS stating why you can't attend and with written documentation.
    Exam #2000
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    CPAT-4/30/2013
    Background-3/6/2013
    Medical-4/4/2013
    Written psych-4/7/2013
    1.5 mile run-7/15/2013
    Academy-7/29/2013

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    Very cool, it seems like the ball is rolling.

    I just called DCAS, since I still hadn't received a letter in the mail about my CPAT dates. It turns out I am scheduled for my first exam on may 2nd, and two other dates on the 13th and 15th.

    Time to rock the CPAT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by infolet333 View Post
    Very cool, it seems like the ball is rolling.

    I just called DCAS, since I still hadn't received a letter in the mail about my CPAT dates. It turns out I am scheduled for my first exam on may 2nd, and two other dates on the 13th and 15th.

    Time to rock the CPAT!
    Do u happne to have the phone number for dcas? thanks in advance!

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    Look, guys, I see a lot of stuff about heart rate on the step mill. You DO need to be in shape, and you should want to pass it on the first shot. But you're not dealing with a zero tolerance policy here. You can be in awesome shape, ready to destroy the FST course at the Rock and still have a higher heart rate. They know this and account for it. The second biggest thing you have to do besides work out is CALM DOWN. It's easier said than done, I know, but if you go in there charged up you're gonna be over. Try to think of some way to take your mind off what you're doing. For me, I just looked down at the manufacturer's label as I walked and laughed while I quoted lines from Spaceballs to myself. As stupid as that sounds, and as weird as I must have looked, it worked. I felt calmer and the whole thing was over before I knew it. Be in shape and have confidence in that and then find a way to take your mind of what you're doing and you'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc3071 View Post
    Do u happne to have the phone number for dcas? thanks in advance!
    yeah man, the number is 212-669-1357.

    Dial "0" to get to customer service.
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    I wanted to share about my experience with the medical last time. In 2008, I didn't have a lot of resources, so I couldn't get a vest and couldn't really afford a gym membership. I also did not have a heart rate monitor. To prepare, I ran hill sprints everyday. Sometimes, I would do them twice a day, morning and evening. 3 times a week, I did a 1.5 mile run as fast as possible and 5-10 sprints of 30 second sprinting and 30 seconds recovering. I passed on my first try. I believe my max heart rate was 177. At the end of the test, my heart rate was at 144.

    I also drank a liter of water before I got to the exam to ensure I was hydrated. During the test, I basically looked at my feet and concentrated on my breathing until they told me I was done.

    Anyone here going to CPAT prep tomorrow evening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostthere View Post
    A lot of guys were doing push ups before they had their vitals checked. It actually increased their heart rate. Since their resting rate were low, they were able to manipulate the situation when they actually got on the stairmaster. So, if their actual resting heart rate was 65, buy doing push ups they increased it to 70-75, etc. There you are able to have some sort of leverage when you are on the stair master. Some tips u guys should take into consideration.
    These guys have giant balls and no integrity. This is cheating. Just go in, do it like you're supposed to, and if you have to reschedule do so, and knock it out of the park on the second go around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    These guys have giant balls and no integrity. This is cheating. Just go in, do it like you're supposed to, and if you have to reschedule do so, and knock it out of the park on the second go around.
    what would their resting heart rate have to do with the step mill test? i thought the max heart rate was determined by your age anyway?

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    A buddy who was in the jan class but got injured and is suppose to go back in July said his investigator told him that they are filling the class in the order of PH, promo, and then OC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDNYhopeful28 View Post
    what would their resting heart rate have to do with the step mill test? i thought the max heart rate was determined by your age anyway?
    Apparently if your HR after the 3m warm up is more than double your resting HR they won't let you even do the 5m12s portion. If you knock out some pushups before getting your vitals taken then your resting HR will be listed as higher and you'll have more room for error. It's stupid, ****ing stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    Apparently if your HR after the 3m warm up is more than double your resting HR they won't let you even do the 5m12s portion. If you knock out some pushups before getting your vitals taken then your resting HR will be listed as higher and you'll have more room for error. It's stupid, ****ing stupid.
    Manhattan - Was this criteria used when you took the medical? I don't recall this double the heart rate on the warm up portion from 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    These guys have giant balls and no integrity. This is cheating. Just go in, do it like you're supposed to, and if you have to reschedule do so, and knock it out of the park on the second go around.
    Now, who would have thought a priority hire guy would advocate cheating at medicals? I swear, this almostthere guy is unfriggingbelievable.

    Take manhattan medic's advice; go in prepared and do it clean. Will anyone know if you cheat? No. Is it that big of an advantage? Probably not. But if you're willing to cut a corner here you'll do it when it counts. Prepare, and the stepmill will have nothing for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minerva View Post
    Manhattan - Was this criteria used when you took the medical? I don't recall this double the heart rate on the warm up portion from 2008.
    I don't know. I don't remember what my resting HR was vs my HR after the 3 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostthere View Post
    A lot of guys were doing push ups before they had their vitals checked. It actually increased their heart rate. Since their resting rate were low, they were able to manipulate the situation when they actually got on the stairmaster. So, if their actual resting heart rate was 65, buy doing push ups they increased it to 70-75, etc. There you are able to have some sort of leverage when you are on the stair master. Some tips u guys should take into consideration.
    why not just get in decent shape?

    oh i forgot you are the guy who needs things handed to him. looks like you know all the shortcuts.

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    I had my medical yesterday, there were 14 of us total and no one at all got to even put the vest on, we all failed. Every one was in great shape with the exception of 2 guys. All of us there were prior military, mostly Marines. One guy, a navy corpsman, runs 10 miles every other day and he even failed it. They let us choose when we wanted to come back, so I am going to do mine again on Monday.

    Today, after doing 20 minutes on the step mill with a 50lb vest and I checked my own heart rate by counting it and then got on the treadmill just to see what that hear rate reading would say, my count put it at 118, the treadmill put me at 123, so how could the monitor at the medical put my heart rate at 153 without the vest on? I asked the guy who runs the gym at my school what he knows about heart rate monitors and he said that they are pretty good when they are new, but as time goes on they become more inaccurate. I just don't understand how so many people are failing this portion of the medical. I wonder if when I go back I could have the doctor who is overseeing it double check my heart rate after I get off the machine. I just can't accept that the number on that thing is correct.
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    chad, ballpark on your list #?

    dont sweat it, you can already do the 8 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadxmerch View Post
    I had my medical yesterday, there were 14 of us total and no one at all got to even put the vest on, we all failed. Every one was in great shape with the exception of 2 guys. All of us there were prior military, mostly Marines. One guy, a navy corpsman, runs 10 miles every other day and he even failed it. They let us choose when we wanted to come back, so I am going to do mine again on Monday.

    Today, after doing 20 minutes on the step mill with a 50lb vest and I checked my own heart rate by counting it and then got on the treadmill just to see what that hear rate reading would say, my count put it at 118, the treadmill put me at 123, so how could the monitor at the medical put my heart rate at 153 without the vest on? I asked the guy who runs the gym at my school what he knows about heart rate monitors and he said that they are pretty good when they are new, but as time goes on they become more inaccurate. I just don't understand how so many people are failing this portion of the medical. I wonder if when I go back I could have the doctor who is overseeing it double check my heart rate after I get off the machine. I just can't accept that the number on that thing is correct.
    For the second medical, you need to concentrate on 8 minutes now. The HR, unless its gonna pop out your chest, they won't monitor that as closely the second time around.

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