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    Quote Originally Posted by rpnyc1 View Post
    Hmmm, there are two different ratios you could be expressing, right? Either guys hired to guys called (1:5) or guys hired to guys not hired (1:4).

    Whichever one you want to use, wasn't the ratio from the 6019 class that went in much better than this one though? One would think back then there would be more active duty guys who had to defer than currently given deployments and whatnot.

    For what it's worth:
    I have lived in the city for 5.5 of the last 6 years, the .5 happened to be in the middle of the required residency period (don't think I don't kick myself for that decision every day). I had about 10 different guys OTJ tell me to apply for residency points anyway and just explain the case to my investigator when the time came. In the end I chose not to, but I'm sure a lot of other people went that route. Waiting for one of the review sessions I talked to a group of guys from Rockland that all said they applied for the residency points even though they'd never lived in the city. So, yeah, if they really are being crazy strict with those points, that could be part of what's going on. Keep in mind anyone with a score of 102 or better is probably gonna get called again eventually even if they lose the points.
    I really hope they are strict with the residency requirements. Not for you personally because you in a way deserve it, but for the scammers who claimed the residency credit when they know they don't deserve it.
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    Well like I said, I ended up not claiming the points, but yeah, I hope every person who's not 100% legit gets sent packing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OAK View Post
    I would assume the next batch of background investigation packets would go out in August since it was February (I believe) that they went out to the first 733 names off the O.C.list. Only a month after the january 2013 academy started.
    I don't know, 733 sounds like enough people to cover January and some of july.. that doesn't necessarily mean there's a pattern that a package will go out in August now. If someone who is knowledgeable said it that's 1 thing, but to go on speculation I don't know.

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    Just think 733+probably 100 ems and phs+ the new added list number people, they should be good for January. Not saying they won't process a few more but I think that's more than enough. I'm 3xx and don't even feel completely 100% for January.
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    Here's the way to figure it out. The amount of EMS and PHS is the biggest variable we have.
    There are 320 spots. You have to give the value(amount) of EMS and PHS = Y. From there it becomes more straight forward. You take hiring ratio; 1:3.5(1 for every 4.5) is a nice easy more even number so lets use that. Plus the number already reached on the OC list(90). To get "X" the list number reached for the next class.

    (320-Y)*4.5+90=X

    You can mess around with the numbers however you like. For the reason I have no FUC.KING CLUE how many PHs and EMS going to the next class. Lets just play with 100 for now.

    (320-100)*4.5+90=X
    220*4.5+90=X
    990+90=X
    1080=X

    What affects this the most is how many EMS and PHs are left. If we can get some solid info on this we can better predict the number on the OC list that will be reached.
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    Quick question for guys who went through the process, did any of you use a cell phone bill as proof of residency? Or if you know anyone that did this because that's all they had as one of the residency requirements?

    I meant to get the 5 residency points.
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    Not sure what you mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpnyc1 View Post
    Well like I said, I ended up not claiming the points, but yeah, I hope every person who's not 100% legit gets sent packing.
    I dunno, I like the guy who is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job. Speaking from my perspective as a city resident and city fireman, I just want the best guy. I don't care if he commutes from Forida. Residency points were a Vulcan invention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDsouthbxNY View Post
    I dunno, I like the guy who is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job. Speaking from my perspective as a city resident and city fireman, I just want the best guy. I don't care if he commutes from Forida. Residency points were a Vulcan invention.
    Does that also include people who are willing to sue to get on the job ? I just feel like everyone is cheating to get an edge now.
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    The packets going out in August comes from a source that I think is some what reliable. They have been right about most things but not all.

    And there's only gonna be a handful of ems in the January class at best. Their list is basically exhausted except a few that didnt have their 2 years yet or any recyclers and my one source who is very knowledgable about all this is very confident that there won't be more than 50 PHs and even that he thinks is pushing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYsFinest_28 View Post
    Does that also include people who are willing to sue to get on the job ? I just feel like everyone is cheating to get an edge now.
    Most people are not cheating to get an edge. Residency points do give people an edge but its not cheating. The ones who are cheating im sure will be weeded out. I also think there are a lot of honest guys on here who were city residents from the dates requested and maintained that residency further but dont have the exact documents because of certain circumstances. We will see how it pans out. I hope all the honest people out there get it, and the dishonest candidates get tossed.

    On another note, Philadelphia Fire Department is giving a test. File period begins July 22nd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYsFinest_28 View Post
    Does that also include people who are willing to sue to get on the job ? I just feel like everyone is cheating to get an edge now.
    This whole PH thing is nonsense, and completely racist. I took the 2007 test, and there was NOTHING racist or biased about it. In fact, I'm white and I didn't even do so good on it and wouldn't of got called off that list anyway.

    But now I scored in the top 1000, and for people to get called ahead of me because of reverse discrimination is nonsense. Im a Correction officer, where whites are a HUGE minority on this job, but does anybody complain about that? Did I get priority hiring to get on the job because I claimed the department is racist and they needed to do something to increase the amounts of whites on the job?

    Its nonsense, and I dunno what the hell this world is coming to. I have no problem with whatever race getting hired ahead of me, IF they scored better on the exam than me. But this priority hiring this is ridiculous, and I think us white guys need to start a class action lawsuit ourselves.
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    Hey guys first just want to say good luck to everyone - well everyone that isn't getting a free pass.

    I'm in a situation and I'm wondering if anyone OTJ or someone with concrete knowledge of the hiring process can shed some light on something for me.

    I read earlier in the thread that a DQ during the NYPD background check will NOT affect a candidates eligibility for the FDNY. Is this definitely true? I'm in a similar situation.

    I'm currently going through the process for NYS Park Police, did the physical agility test last week, handed in my paperwork. After talking to the investigator about my background packet and 'integrity questionnaire' I started to feel a little uneasy about my chances and possible damage it could do to my main goal - FDNY.

    Basically there are a few things that could get me DQed:

    Traffic tickets (Only because of repeated no-seatbelt tickets, could reflect poorly on my character according to investigator)
    Prior arrest (Disposition was a plea deal down to a violation from a non-violent class E felony)
    Polygraph - They are going to ask you questions about visiting illegal websites, downloading music/movies/software, prior drug use, etc.

    I know (well I think I know) that FDNY will not automatically DQ you for an arrest. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. What I'm mostly worried about is that I'll fail the polygraph and will have a DQ on my record. If having this will **** up my chances of getting on with FDNY then I would rather withdraw myself from the NYSPP process.

    Can anyone please shed some light? NYSPP is a great opportunity for a bridge job or a back up if I can't get on FDNY, but I'll turn it down if its going to ruin my chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John246 View Post
    This whole PH thing is nonsense, and completely racist. I took the 2007 test, and there was NOTHING racist or biased about it. In fact, I'm white and I didn't even do so good on it and wouldn't of got called off that list anyway.

    But now I scored in the top 1000, and for people to get called ahead of me because of reverse discrimination is nonsense. Im a Correction officer, where whites are a HUGE minority on this job, but does anybody complain about that? Did I get priority hiring to get on the job because I claimed the department is racist and they needed to do something to increase the amounts of whites on the job?

    Its nonsense, and I dunno what the hell this world is coming to. I have no problem with whatever race getting hired ahead of me, IF they scored better on the exam than me. But this priority hiring this is ridiculous, and I think us white guys need to start a class action lawsuit ourselves.
    I get your frustration but the way it's coming out sounds wrong. I also took 6019 would have been hired within the life of the list, took this test and am in the top 350. I'm minority and am being skipped over the same way you are. Your post just seems like it seeks to separate. If anyone has the right to be upset about the ph situation it's the people from 6019 or the people that if the courts hired at the 2:5 or 3:5 ratio with ph and oc would have been in this class. Did you even get a packet yet?
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    Whats up guys, hope everyone is having a good and safe weekend so far...can anyone confirm or deny if Yonkers is an acceptable place to reside in and still work for fdny? I know that the NOE states that you must be a resident of any of the 5 boroughs or any of the surrounding counties but someone told me that yonkers is excluded somehow...anyway, i just wanted to confirm before i decide to move to yonkers

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    I didn't see anything about not living in Yonkers, its part of Westchester County which is a acceptable county. This is from there website.......
    Be a resident of one of the five boroughs of New York City, or live in Nassau, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, Suffolk or Westchester County;
    If you do move to Yonkers, take the YFD test, that's a very good department and pays well also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFwnt2b View Post
    I didn't see anything about not living in Yonkers, its part of Westchester County which is a acceptable county. This is from there website.......
    Be a resident of one of the five boroughs of New York City, or live in Nassau, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, Suffolk or Westchester County;
    If you do move to Yonkers, take the YFD test, that's a very good department and pays well also.
    I believe they have the best salary in the country..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFwnt2b View Post
    I didn't see anything about not living in Yonkers, its part of Westchester County which is a acceptable county. This is from there website.......
    Be a resident of one of the five boroughs of New York City, or live in Nassau, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, Suffolk or Westchester County;
    If you do move to Yonkers, take the YFD test, that's a very good department and pays well also.
    They also laid off firemen and demoted officers.....great FD, great pay, but a totally crooked city.
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    During orientation do you bring the manuals with you?
    Dont forget to complete the information work sheet in the back and to buy the money order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDsouthbxNY View Post
    I dunno, I like the guy who is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job. Speaking from my perspective as a city resident and city fireman, I just want the best guy. I don't care if he commutes from Forida. Residency points were a Vulcan invention.
    I hear you. But that's why I'd rather see the guy who scored a 97 with no points because he followed the rules on the NOE get on ahead of the guy who scored 98 or 99 with the points knowing full well he isn't qualified to get them... that and because I want to get on the job.

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    Where is this information work sheet? The only sheet I have filled out is the beneficiary form. Is it in the back of the manuals or the regulations for the uniformed force manual? I'm on my reserve active duty

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDsouthbxNY View Post
    They also laid off firemen and demoted officers.....great FD, great pay, but a totally crooked city.
    Yes, crooked indeed, but if you get in, it's good. They play those layoff games a lot, they hire the guys back sooner then later. But yeah, if you have a family, you probably don't want to play those games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDNY-USCG View Post
    Where is this information work sheet? The only sheet I have filled out is the beneficiary form. Is it in the back of the manuals or the regulations for the uniformed force manual? I'm on my reserve active duty
    its in the last packet u received tells u about orientation. U have to get phone numbers social securities of ur kids spouses and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grok350 View Post
    I get your frustration but the way it's coming out sounds wrong. I also took 6019 would have been hired within the life of the list, took this test and am in the top 350. I'm minority and am being skipped over the same way you are. Your post just seems like it seeks to separate. If anyone has the right to be upset about the ph situation it's the people from 6019 or the people that if the courts hired at the 2:5 or 3:5 ratio with ph and oc would have been in this class. Did you even get a packet yet?
    I didn't get a packet yet.. im in the 900's. no packet. And although the last list being cancelled wound up benefitting me since I was 7000ish on it, this whole priority thing does affect me. It affects me, because I took a fair test, scored fairly on it, have a good list number, and I deserve this job as much as everybody elseif not more than a lot of people, because I was always a hard worker, started working full time at age 16, and im dying to get out of my job, and because of priority hires, I have to wait longer to get this job, if I even wind up getting it at all. I've worked for a long time, paid my taxes for PLENTY of years. I paid for this test, I deserve a fair chance to get it. The 2007 test, what was racist about it? Did it have questions about Italian culture on it that gave people an unfair advantage or something? Its nonsense.

    And if your being passed over for priority hires, its affecting you to. My job has VERY few whites on it, and I didn't get no priority hiring, I had to take the test, pay for it, and wait in line until my respective number was called. I didn't get priority hiring because whites make up a small percentage of the department.

    I want to get out of my job, and work a respectable job asap. I've been playing fair my whole life, I shouldn't have to sit back now and be cheated on my opportunity.

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