Plus you get a variable supplement when you retire, which is an extra $12k a year, on top of your pension.
Plus, working for the city, you can take out a deferred savings plan, which is almost the same thing as a 401k in the private sector.
So before FDNY 2000 list was even established, when I didn't think i'd have an opportunity to leave and thought i'd be with corrections - I was looking at a 20 year career, retiring with a pension of 60-70k, plus 12k variable, plus deferred plan.
Can't beat that. You can work a private sector job that pays 200k a year, and still have to work your whole life or can get laid off anytime. My friend's father worked in the private sector and made a huge salary and they had a huge house, when his father retired and the economy went bad, they had money issues, had to declare bankruptcy, had to sell big house and move into a much smaller house. My father worked for the city, made considerably less money than his father... when the economy went bad, my father still got his pension, still didn't have to worry, and went and bought another house paid in full, and went from owning 1 house to 2, while this guy had to downsize.
Can't beat working for the city.
And unlimited sick leave, forgot to mention that. Who else is going to give you UNLIMITED sick leave lol.
I've never called out yet, but unlimited sick leave is HUGE, because if I get hurt on the job and have to be out several months, or even if I get hurt OFF the job and have to be out several months, I still get a pay check.
And you know whats even more bizarre, you actually get paid more to be out injured, than to go to work, because you don't pay taxes on your check when your out injured. Working a $200k job in pvt sector, you get injured and have to miss work for several months, you better have that Aflac, which that also runs out at some point, because I doubt your job will pay you while your out.
Well OT is no longer pensionable with FDNY and seriously enough already with DOC stuff. No one cares. We're here for FD.
If I (or my kid) didn't have to eat, I'd do the job for free! :) It comes back to that old saying: You do what you love and the money will come.
im sure a lot of people here waiting to get in to fdny, have normal jobs now where you work mon-fri 9-5 or close to it.. and even if you have to work a weekend, im sure you have holidays off, and have steady off days so it's easy to plan a life around.
FDNY you don't just get paid for the job itself, but its not a "normal" job. Your life revolves around your fdny schedule. You don't have steady off days, you don't have holidays or weekends off. You can't plan a simple dentist appointment next month without having to consult with your fdny schedule 1st.. you can't promise your kid you'll be there for the holiday or his/her birthday in a couple of months because you gotta see what day your schedule lands on.
FDNY you work 2 days, then have 48 hours off, which means you don't even get 2 full days off, before you gotta be back at work.
So anybody who makes any comments that they'd do the job for free, needs a reality check, and is talking nonsense. You obviously never worked a job that came 1st and your life revolved around it.
FDNY is a great job to be at, if your schedule has to revolve around it and you have to be at the fire house on Christmas, or other holidays, or in the heat of summer. And its a nice 2nd family atmosphere.
But remember, your signing the next 20+ years of your life away to something. To say you'd do that for nothing in return is a complete lie.
And if you really mean that, then you don't even need to join the FDNY, you can keep your current job and join a volunteer fire fighter house.
I was looking more closely at the salaries and if you move up in rank and work the OT you are most likely going to get paid close to any of your friends who went the private route. And this does not even take into account the huge pension and health benefits that you will receive.
It is just crazy that anybody can be worried about how much the FDNY pays. The way things were you stand probably over a 50% chance of being out on 3/4 salary that is tax free before your 20 years.
You spoke about the unlimited sick leave. Well, not only that but if you actually get hurt, and i'm talking nothing serious, you can retire at 3/4 salary tax free and also receive social security benefits.
I know some here don't want this to be made public, not that it matters. But the reason I am choosing the FDNY is that it blows away almost anything you will get in the private work force. Plus you have a fun job that is stress free. Nothing is worse than having a private job and knowing you may be fired at any time.
So to sum this all up, you have a fun job that does not require you to sit in front of a computer everyday. You get a ridiculous amount of money and on top of that a ridiculous pension. You get ridiculous job security, ahh my shoulder feels week, OK here is 3/4 tax free pay. All for a job that in many places in the country have a volunteer fire department. Think about that, a job that is so fun that many small towns have volunteer firemen.
We all know this here and the only people who have a problem with speaking about this publicly are the people who are worried that somehow they will lose this ridiculously generous GEM of a job if more people knew what they really get from it.
I thought it was 44%? All the same though.
So many people here for the wrong reasons.
so NOBODY knows how they go about the medical appeal process for whatever reason? i asked a few days ago, but i guess no one saw it or had any info so i'm trying again. lol
Stephensm: you do know how to send a pm, right? pm=private message.
And you f*cking idiots wonder why none of the guys on the job post here anymore.