Anyone who went to family day know if they made another video similar to last class? (http://vimeo.com/67417542)
I know it's a tad corny but it still gets me so amped up. Anyone else? :D
Do they make you shave your head bald in academy? Everyone in video is bald.
I believe you answered your own question
They don't make you ! But is part of tradition so it's more like you have to !!! I'll be proud to get a full boldy... I believe there was an incident on this class with someone that didn't want to cut his hair ..not cool don't be that guy
Not really a big deal but kinda sucks. My hair is already really short.
$2 million in terms of money towards the city or a city agency, really isn't a lot of money. Do I think they spent $2 million administering the test and getting this list together? NO. But they did spend quite a bit, and that $2 million after all expenses gathering this list, whatever's left of it is probably only enough to pay for a few DCAS employees salaries for the years.
Its easy to get frustrated with paying for a test, but it does cost money for them to administer a test, and in the grand scope of things, DCAS really didn't make all that much money off this test.
If the engine is showing up and blatantly avoiding helping you or at a minimum asking if you require assistance, then you are unfortunately working with some hairbag companies.
Can you really blame guys for not wanting to stay on scene of an EMS run and miss a fire? Companies miss fires in their first due area all the time and its very frustrating.
First of all, thats pennies to the city of new york. Second, do you think its free to administer an exam and furthermore compile a list of 40,000 names and then pay investigators and medical staff to process them?
Paying for testing facilities and pre-test programs that went a long with exam alone probably cost 1 million or more.
Investigators im sure get paid decently. The city has to pay them for the duration of the exam, potentially 5 years of investigations. Thats easily over $1,000,000 alone. Probably far more.
Forget what it costs to run the medical office for a few thousand candidates. (probably astronomical compared to every other expense)
Also don't forget the guys at the Rock being paid to train candidates.
Realistically, giving an exam cost the city more than likely $15,000,000 or more if I had to take a guess...
Investigators don't get paid that great individually, they get around 50k range, but when theres 10 investigators, that's about 500k right there to pay them.
DCAS administered the test, DCAS made about 2 million which isn't a lot, and before expenses, FDNY is paying for all the CPAT training at the rock, medical, and investigators etc.. DCAS is paying for the CPAT orientation they offered and again to administer the CPAT.
Giving an exam wouldn't cost the city $15 million lol, if it did believe me they wouldn't charge only $40 or whatever for their exam. There's some city exams that cost well over $100 to take.
Today is going to be a long day in the office, hopefully today is an active day on here to make the clock move a little faster.
Do you guys realize that you're arguing about numbers on a budget that you have ZERO visibility of? To top that off, you made up the numbers you're complaining about! Get used to the idea that things are going to appear stupid at times, it's called municipal government. But complaining and making up numbers to suit an argument that doesn't need to be argued in the first place, makes about as much sense as a soup sandwich.
Do yourself a favor and stop complaining about the money the city did or did not profit. Go run and do some pull-ups instead.
15 may be a bit over-estimated but I wouldn't say $10,000,000 was outlandish collectively between every expense to run this exam over 4-5 years.
Lets say the investigators make 50k plus benefits a year (that the city pays). Lets say there is 10 of them. Thats over 500k a year x 5 years for investigators alone. Plus cost of investigation. Not everything is handled solely by the investigator they do have to outsource some things. So theres $3,000,000 for investigators.
There is definitely at least 5 instructors at the rock handling the CPAT training. Some are LTs and the rest are top pay FFs. Thats at least $100,000-$130,000 each. So over 5 years, thats potentially $3,000,000.
We also have to pay DCAS people to run the CPAT testing sites. Granted they probably make next to nothing and are part time, they still get paid for orientation and testing of probably 10,000 candidates over the duration of the exam.
The medical office absolutely costs more to run when there is an influx of an extra couple thousand people a year. How much, I have no idea but it certainly costs more. They also have to administer, score, and send some people to see the therapist after the psych exam.
So yes, I would venture to say $10,000,000 is not an unrealistic number whatsoever. 15 probably not. I just threw a number out there.
Regardless, anyone who thinks the city actually profits off of giving an exam of this magnitude is foolish.
Less than 30 days till run letters start going out. I cant freaking wait bro!
When I get that letter for the run in the mail, I swear i'm guna do a fkin backflip.
Keep training fellas, if you're list number 800 or under, than you might be at the rock in 8 weeks.
So when do we think the next line of of medical notices will go out ? Late February/early March be a reasonable guess ?