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    Quote Originally Posted by apples&oranges View Post
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    Exam: 2000
    Score: 102
    List #: 7XX
    Investigation: 9/26/13
    Medical: 10/10/13
    Psych: 10/11/13
    CPAT: 11/4/13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gianni1028 View Post
    Hey guys, can somebody please give me a brief description of the medical. I know its the stepmill, but what exactly does it entail
    You fill out medical questionnaire.

    They take your resting heart rate, then you do **** test, then ekg test, pulmonary test where you gotta blow hard into this tube for 8 seconds.. Stair master, 3 minutes no vest, if your resting heart rate doubles you fail, if it doesn't double, you wait 5 minutes, then go on again for 5:12, and if your heart rate hits a certain level that they calculate, you fail. (my advice, do something to get your heart rate up, because my resting rate was so low, that it doubled easily). they told us 90% of candidates fail this and have to come back. so its no big deal, when you come back, its a 3 minute warm up no vest, 5 minute break, then you go on for 5:12, if your rate doesn't reach the level they determined you pass, if your heart rate goes over, then you just stay on for 8 minutes to pass.

    then you do vision test, which isn't reading numbers off a line, its reading patterns off a line so its more detailed than your basic vision test. then you do hearing exam, which again is very detailed because some of the tones go so low that you don't know if your really hearing it or imagining it. Then you have blood test. then TB skin test, where you will NEED to get the results read by a doctor or nurse in 48 hours and have the results faxed to the fdny medical. Then you do a FIT test where they put a mask on you and you gotta breath in with it on - this is where and why you need to be clean shaven.

    and that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John246 View Post
    You fill out medical questionnaire.

    They take your resting heart rate, then you do **** test, then ekg test, pulmonary test where you gotta blow hard into this tube for 8 seconds.. Stair master, 3 minutes no vest, if your resting heart rate doubles you fail, if it doesn't double, you wait 5 minutes, then go on again for 5:12, and if your heart rate hits a certain level that they calculate, you fail. (my advice, do something to get your heart rate up, because my resting rate was so low, that it doubled easily). they told us 90% of candidates fail this and have to come back. so its no big deal, when you come back, its a 3 minute warm up no vest, 5 minute break, then you go on for 5:12, if your rate doesn't reach the level they determined you pass, if your heart rate goes over, then you just stay on for 8 minutes to pass.

    then you do vision test, which isn't reading numbers off a line, its reading patterns off a line so its more detailed than your basic vision test. then you do hearing exam, which again is very detailed because some of the tones go so low that you don't know if your really hearing it or imagining it. Then you have blood test. then TB skin test, where you will NEED to get the results read by a doctor or nurse in 48 hours and have the results faxed to the fdny medical. Then you do a FIT test where they put a mask on you and you gotta breath in with it on - this is where and why you need to be clean shaven.

    and that's it.
    lol just noticed they ** out the 1st test I mentioned.. its a "urine test" for drug test lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by John246 View Post
    lol just noticed they ** out the 1st test I mentioned.. its a "urine test" for drug test lol
    haha I was trying to figure out what the **** stood for.

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    hey i guys i am new to this site and have a few questions on this thread, considering most of you seem to know exactly what is going on. I took the 2000 OC test and scored a 99 w/o residency points or anything like that. My list number is currently 38xx. i was wondering if i should be optimistic about getting a call in the next couple years or if i am to far off from the top of the list to even be thinking about a call and should start thinking of the next test already LOL. any insight or opinion would be great thanks guys

    once again test #2000 score 99 list #38xx

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    Psych tomorrow, anyone know If I should show up dressed nice or just casual, don't want to get ripped apart for not being properly dressed

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    Quote Originally Posted by OAK View Post
    Total of 318, 123 priority hires, 175 EMS Promos, and 20 guys off of the OC list. I believe they got up to 11x on the OC list for this past July class.
    About 110 candidates off the OC list to fill 20 spots in the academy.

    That makes it look very good for anybody list number 800 and below for possibly getting in January '14.
    FDNY exam 2000 score: 104

    list number: 2xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by NycQ83 View Post
    haha I was trying to figure out what the **** stood for.
    lmao it stood for the 4 letter p word used to describe urine

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyc1220 View Post
    Psych tomorrow, anyone know If I should show up dressed nice or just casual, don't want to get ripped apart for not being properly dressed
    if its the written you can dress casual. when I went for written plenty of people were in jeans and no1 cared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rr100 View Post
    hey i guys i am new to this site and have a few questions on this thread, considering most of you seem to know exactly what is going on. I took the 2000 OC test and scored a 99 w/o residency points or anything like that. My list number is currently 38xx. i was wondering if i should be optimistic about getting a call in the next couple years or if i am to far off from the top of the list to even be thinking about a call and should start thinking of the next test already LOL. any insight or opinion would be great thanks guys

    once again test #2000 score 99 list #38xx
    Good for you getting that score without residency. I got a 98 without my residency credits, so congrats. You should be optimistic about getting a call. As for the next few years, it's hard to tell. We have yet to have a class consist of 100% candidates from the Open competitive exam (exam 2000). As for getting a call, you will definitely get reached. My GUESS would be January 2015, but no body knows for sure. My advice to you would be; stick around until the July 2014 class, which will be the FIRST class to consist of 100% of the OC exam 2000. Get a ratio of hiring from that and you'll be able to determine which class you may make. But with a list # 38XX I would say you're in a good spot to a call by 2015.



    Quote Originally Posted by infolet333 View Post
    About 110 candidates off the OC list to fill 20 spots in the academy.

    That makes it look very good for anybody list number 800 and below for possibly getting in January '14.

    Keep in mind the very top of the OC exam are usually military involved candidates who defer their class due to military tours and such so I wouldn't count on that to be an accurate representation of what ratio we're looking at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtk123 View Post
    Good for you getting that score without residency. I got a 98 without my residency credits, so congrats. You should be optimistic about getting a call. As for the next few years, it's hard to tell. We have yet to have a class consist of 100% candidates from the Open competitive exam (exam 2000). As for getting a call, you will definitely get reached. My GUESS would be January 2015, but no body knows for sure. My advice to you would be; stick around until the July 2014 class, which will be the FIRST class to consist of 100% of the OC exam 2000. Get a ratio of hiring from that and you'll be able to determine which class you may make. But with a list # 38XX I would say you're in a good spot to a call by 2015.






    Keep in mind the very top of the OC exam are usually military involved candidates who defer their class due to military tours and such so I wouldn't count on that to be an accurate representation of what ratio we're looking at.
    Couldn't agree more. For those scores the ratio isn't a good indication. Most are deferring because of active duty

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    Quote Originally Posted by John246 View Post
    Money isn't everything, and this job is a much better choice than other jobs that pay more... but don't act like money is not an issue here and you'd do the job for nothing. Anybody with any job obviously wants to be able to provide for family and have a nice family life... You don't need the job to make you rich by any means, but making sure you can have a decent family life, nothing wrong with that.

    And if money wasn't an issue at all here, and you should only be here for the love of the job like every fire fighter, than the fdny job wouldn't pay what it does. they bargained for their pay raise years ago when the job paid considerably less, if money meant nothing, why didn't they just sit back and say "we don't mind getting paid much less while other departments are getting big raises because we love our job so much".
    When talking about money you have to factor in the very generous retirement benefits. If they still exist it is half pay after 20 years. That means if you are making 80,000 a year and retire in 20 years you will get paid 40,000 a year with full health benefits I believe, all this for the rest of your life.

    This is huge and because of this the FDNY job pays much more than many other jobs in the private sector when you factor in a retirement benefit like this.

    For example if you wanted to buy a retirement benefit from a private source that paid you 40,000 a year after you retire when you are like 45 years old. It would probably cost you like 40,000 a year (because of the crazy low interest rates being paid today) for the 20 years you worked. If you add on health insurance to that you're talking like 45,000 a year.

    This is why the FDNY pays more than most of you would ever make in the private sector. Add on 40,000 a year to your FDNY salary to properly compare what you are making compared to someone who is working in the private sector.

    Remember that in the private sector you do not get pensions anymore. You basically have to rely on putting money In stuff like 401k's. This is why it makes no sense to work in the private sector anymore unless you are lucky enough to work someplace where you will get paid lots and lots of money. For the average college grad you will still be better off working for the government. This doesn't even factor the job security you get and low stress of a government job. All of this is just crazy and the reason why many state governments are going bankrupt.

    So don't be stupid thinking NYC firefighters don't get paid a lot, they get paid very very well for the work they do and if that was not the case there wouldn't be huge lists to get on.
    Last edited by SirEd; 11-16-2013 at 12:56 PM.

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    Does anyone have a good template for the support documents? (how exactly to write down that you were supported by your parents) I have to go in and finish handing in my paperwork monday and want to be sure I give it to them how they want, so I don't have to go back again.

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    Anybody know if they send out qualified letters once you pass everything? I'm done with everything as far as i know including paperwork with investigator but I know there is a verification process and a review of all your explanations for tickets an arrests and whatever else?

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    Personal references letters FINALLY went out. Got a call from one of my references today. I can finally sleep easy.

    All steps done now, just waiting on January

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtk123 View Post
    Personal references letters FINALLY went out. Got a call from one of my references today. I can finally sleep easy.

    All steps done now, just waiting on January
    good to hear man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fd2000ny View Post
    Anybody know if they send out qualified letters once you pass everything? I'm done with everything as far as i know including paperwork with investigator but I know there is a verification process and a review of all your explanations for tickets an arrests and whatever else?
    no, I think you just have to wait for run letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin12345 View Post
    Does anyone have a good template for the support documents? (how exactly to write down that you were supported by your parents) I have to go in and finish handing in my paperwork monday and want to be sure I give it to them how they want, so I don't have to go back again.
    To Whom it may concern,

    My (or our if both parents sign) son kevin was supported during his periods of unemployment from x/20xx - x/20xx by living at home with us, his parents. during this time, good ol' kevin was attending college full time.

    thankyou
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirEd View Post
    When talking about money you have to factor in the very generous retirement benefits. If they still exist it is half pay after 20 years. That means if you are making 80,000 a year and retire in 20 years you will get paid 40,000 a year with full health benefits I believe, all this for the rest of your life.

    This is huge and because of this the FDNY job pays much more than many other jobs in the private sector when you factor in a retirement benefit like this.

    For example if you wanted to buy a retirement benefit from a private source that paid you 40,000 a year after you retire when you are like 45 years old. It would probably cost you like 40,000 a year (because of the crazy low interest rates being paid today) for the 20 years you worked. If you add on health insurance to that you're talking like 45,000 a year.

    This is why the FDNY pays more than most of you would ever make in the private sector. Add on 40,000 a year to your FDNY salary to properly compare what you are making compared to someone who is working in the private sector.

    Remember that in the private sector you do not get pensions anymore. You basically have to rely on putting money In stuff like 401k's. This is why it makes no sense to work in the private sector anymore unless you are lucky enough to work someplace where you will get paid lots and lots of money. For the average college grad you will still be better off working for the government. This doesn't even factor the job security you get and low stress of a government job. All of this is just crazy and the reason why many state governments are going bankrupt.

    So don't be stupid thinking NYC firefighters don't get paid a lot, they get paid very very well for the work they do and if that was not the case there wouldn't be huge lists to get on.
    OT is included in pensions, that's why OT is a big deal. Guys I work with who are at top pay and retiring soon, do a lot of OT, and boost their salary up to $120-130k range. Your pension is they average out your 3 best years of your career, and then half that.

    Plus you get a variable supplement when you retire, which is an extra $12k a year, on top of your pension.

    Plus, working for the city, you can take out a deferred savings plan, which is almost the same thing as a 401k in the private sector.

    So before FDNY 2000 list was even established, when I didn't think i'd have an opportunity to leave and thought i'd be with corrections - I was looking at a 20 year career, retiring with a pension of 60-70k, plus 12k variable, plus deferred plan.

    Can't beat that. You can work a private sector job that pays 200k a year, and still have to work your whole life or can get laid off anytime. My friend's father worked in the private sector and made a huge salary and they had a huge house, when his father retired and the economy went bad, they had money issues, had to declare bankruptcy, had to sell big house and move into a much smaller house. My father worked for the city, made considerably less money than his father... when the economy went bad, my father still got his pension, still didn't have to worry, and went and bought another house paid in full, and went from owning 1 house to 2, while this guy had to downsize.

    Can't beat working for the city.

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    And unlimited sick leave, forgot to mention that. Who else is going to give you UNLIMITED sick leave lol.

    I've never called out yet, but unlimited sick leave is HUGE, because if I get hurt on the job and have to be out several months, or even if I get hurt OFF the job and have to be out several months, I still get a pay check.

    And you know whats even more bizarre, you actually get paid more to be out injured, than to go to work, because you don't pay taxes on your check when your out injured. Working a $200k job in pvt sector, you get injured and have to miss work for several months, you better have that Aflac, which that also runs out at some point, because I doubt your job will pay you while your out.

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