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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    Do they just quit out of laziness and intimidation or is it just too late to adjust physically for whatever is happening in time?
    Lots of different reasons why people quit. The smoke house always gets a few guys. Mask confidence is a little weird at first also. Not many people like the feeling of being completely blacked out and working through an obstacle course. And the physical demand can be overwhelming for some people. If you want this job you can push yourself through. If you're on the fence it would be VERY easy to ring that bell, that's for sure.

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    Thanks for the response. So are we officially at three classes or is that up in in the air still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    Thanks for the response. So are we officially at three classes or is that up in in the air still.
    Just got off the phone with my mentor. I'm in the 1500's. He said no to 3 classes a year in so far as he knows. I heard the same thing at the mentee meeting at the Rock. He also seemed to think as do I that I'm most likely in the Jan class. Come on January - fel like I have been waiting so long.

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    Thanks bro, I hope he is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    Thanks bro, I hope he is wrong.
    You and me both buddy, you and me both... I'll let you know if I hear anything different.

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    We will get a lot more info when july hits. Its a new group for the academy and new packets going out. Yea It sucks waiting.Im at 46**, I'm scared that ems guys and other factors will knock me out of the running!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    Do they just quit out of laziness and intimidation or is it just too late to adjust physically for whatever is happening in time?
    Some people they're too far behind physically to "tough it out." I have one in my squad who is trying to tough it out and its just not working. Mtk you know who I'm talking
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    Questions for guys OTJ, I have two years OTJ as a NYPD Police Officer, I'm seriously considering switching over just passed the CPAT last month. Does anyone know if my Tier carries over?? I'm in Tier 3 22 years to retire full pension or 25 years for the COLA, I know the pass scale goes back to bottom pay (thank you Ray Kelly!!!) and I know my years are pensionable on the front. If anyone has any more info on prior city time transferring over it would be greatly appreciated. Also OT with the FDNY, I'm currently averaging 20-30 hours of OT a month in the Winter months and with the summer coming probably close to 40 hours a month, is OT as a new probie fresh off the rock as prevalent as it is in the PD??? Thanks again and good luck to all future FF'S
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfNeptune View Post
    Questions for guys OTJ, I have two years OTJ as a NYPD Police Officer, I'm seriously considering switching over just passed the CPAT last month. Does anyone know if my Tier carries over?? I'm in Tier 3 22 years to retire full pension or 25 years for the COLA, I know the pass scale goes back to bottom pay (thank you Ray Kelly!!!) and I know my years are pensionable on the front. If anyone has any more info on prior city time transferring over it would be greatly appreciated. Also OT with the FDNY, I'm currently averaging 20-30 hours of OT a month in the Winter months and with the summer coming probably close to 40 hours a month, is OT as a new probie fresh off the rock as prevalent as it is in the PD??? Thanks again and good luck to all future FF'S
    Your tier should stay the same, it's from when you enter the city retirement system
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfNeptune View Post
    Tier 3 and OT questions
    While I did not transfer from NYPD I am tier 3 so I believe all information is still applicable. Technically when you start as a firefighter you will become tier 3 modified by 6 (just going to say tier 6 to save time). You're in tier 6 until you elect to transfer your time & $ from PD, at which point you will return to tier 3 (anybody who is in PD long enough to be tier 2 will convert back to tier 2 at this point). Our pension people will come and talk to you in the academy and explain all that and have you do the paperwork during the academy.

    I don't know that your tier 3 time in PD will count up front… or at all. My EMS time does not count up front or on the back end. The only thing it counts for is to get to the 5 year mark in the pension system and become vested, so that if I died off the job my family would get something from the pension system. I think you may be in the same boat. The good news is these things can change. When tier 2 was new it was seen as a real step down from tier 1, and now it's seen as pretty damn good.

    Tier 3 will probably get changed at some point to get closer to tier 2. The recent fire in Coney Island that hurt those 2 cops will force the discussion of it. PO Rodriguez is tier 3 and likely never going full duty again, so the unions finally have some ammunition for why tier 3 disability/LODD benefits need to be improved.

    As far as OT goes: Depending on when you get hired it may still be around. Everyone says the goal of the department is to fill the ranks and get back to how it was 5-6 years ago where there was pretty much 0 OT. For the time being it's good, very good. I'm not sure how long they'll go before they let new guys do any, it all depends. For my class they waited a bit because it'd been so long without probies it's like the job forgot how to deal with them. Now that we're back into the swing of things it probably won't be such a big deal. How much OT is available varies from battalion to battalion. In mine we need bodies pretty much every tour. Don't count on it being there though.

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    The 3 academies a year are just a proposed budget, if you look back at the last 2 budget proposals they also tried for 3 classes a year
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    Quote Originally Posted by grok350 View Post
    Some people they're too far behind physically to "tough it out." I have one in my squad who is trying to tough it out and its just not working. Mtk you know who I'm talking
    If you don't mind me asking, how are they "toughing" it and failing to meet the physical standards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dem7191 View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, how are they "toughing" it and failing to meet the physical standards?
    Probably talking FST and some PT sessions. You have to pass FST to graduate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dem7191 View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, how are they "toughing" it and failing to meet the physical standards?
    They showed up unprepared. For a while you can make it if you have willpower, but eventually injury and the long term stress of the academy take it's toll. You still need willpower, but if you aren't physically fit enough eventually you may not be able to hack it any more.

    I was so banged up by the end that after any run we did I could barely walk.

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    MM and Ffwnt2b,

    Thanks for replying! This has what I have been doing 3-4 times a week:

    The 4 sets of the following
    30push-ups (first set, 20 the 2nd, 15 3rd, 15 4th)
    1 min plank,
    20 bicep curls with 25lbs
    30lunges
    20 tricep press with 25lbs
    30 squats
    15 shoulder press with 25lbs
    30 sitsups
    1min break

    After that I do
    Same set, do 15 push-ups and use 10lbs and do 50 bicep curls, and 30 tricep and shoulder press

    And run on the in between days 4-5 miles at 845 pace and sometime after the set as well.

    Is this an efficient way to be somewhere in the ballpark to be prepared for probie school?
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    Yes, you are guaranteed a job IF you pass the Academy. It's really not hard to do. If you've been running and doing push ups, sit ups, ect (like you should be doing) then you'll be golden. If you get yelled at by a DI, it's not personal, yes sir-no sir, and move on. Everyone gets yelled at. Will you have a hard time? Yeah, it is designed to kick your butt but we want guys who will take a beating and keep on going. I had a moment of dispair at The Rock. Though I couldn't complete something, saw my whole career go up in smoke (pardon the pun). One instructor took me aside, asked what the problem was. Told him I couldn't do it. He said okay, made me put my mask back on, grab the wall, an literally kicked my ***. And that was all I needed. If 'No' or 'I can't do it' is not in your vocabulary, then you WILL pass.

    But as also said, I wouldn't burn any bridges with old jobs. You may go back and work on the side, ect.

    We've gotten some new probies lately and the quality seems to be pretty good. Remember, you won't suffer by yourself. You and your whole squad excel, suffer, get beaten down, and stand with pride together.

    In my opinion if your are on this site asking questions then you have the right attitude. You give a damn. There are guys who do not.

    Okay, here end'th my sermon.
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    At the Rock you use two 10lbs dumbbells for PT. That's it. Believe me, those 10lbs can get pretty heavy after a while. Push ups, pull ups, sit ups, curls, standing Ts (holding dumb bell in each hand out to your side and holding it there... forever!) and running. That's standard PT.

    There is also the FST which is PT + CPAT + other firefighting duties all rolled into one on steroids, while wearing your mask. Done once a week.

    Stay strong, keep the faith and stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dem7191 View Post
    MM and Ffwnt2b,

    Thanks for replying! This has what I have been doing 3-4 times a week:

    The 4 sets of the following
    30push-ups (first set, 20 the 2nd, 15 3rd, 15 4th)
    1 min plank,
    20 bicep curls with 25lbs
    30lunges
    20 tricep press with 25lbs
    30 squats
    15 shoulder press with 25lbs
    30 sitsups
    1min break

    After that I do
    Same set, do 15 push-ups and use 10lbs and do 50 bicep curls, and 30 tricep and shoulder press

    And run on the in between days 4-5 miles at 845 pace and sometime after the set as well.

    Is this an efficient way to be somewhere in the ballpark to be prepared for probie school?
    Yeah that's not a bad routine. Make sure the workouts are back to back with litte rest. You want your heart rate up and you want to be sweating.

    I wouldn't run any further than what you have been doing, just try to pick up the pace a little bit. When we go running with "he who shall not be named" (that ones for you grok), we usually run close to a 7:30 mile. Depends on the instructor though but I would prepare for the worst.

    Good luck, keep it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtk123 View Post
    Yeah that's not a bad routine. Make sure the workouts are back to back with litte rest. You want your heart rate up and you want to be sweating.

    I wouldn't run any further than what you have been doing, just try to pick up the pace a little bit. When we go running with "he who shall not be named" (that ones for you grok), we usually run close to a 7:30 mile. Depends on the instructor though but I would prepare for the worst.

    Good luck, keep it up.
    Thanks for the advice !! I'm going to start sprints, so I can drop my time a bit.
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    For sprints try:

    2 800 (run one as a warm up)
    4 400
    8 200
    5-10 1000
    400(cool down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4040clubBouncer View Post
    For sprints try:

    2 800 (run one as a warm up)
    4 400
    8 200
    5-10 1000
    400(cool down)
    Thanks 404, reminds me of my swimming days! Do you live by fort Hamilton?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfNeptune View Post
    Questions for guys OTJ, I have two years OTJ as a NYPD Police Officer, I'm seriously considering switching over just passed the CPAT last month. Does anyone know if my Tier carries over?? I'm in Tier 3 22 years to retire full pension or 25 years for the COLA, I know the pass scale goes back to bottom pay (thank you Ray Kelly!!!) and I know my years are pensionable on the front. If anyone has any more info on prior city time transferring over it would be greatly appreciated. Also OT with the FDNY, I'm currently averaging 20-30 hours of OT a month in the Winter months and with the summer coming probably close to 40 hours a month, is OT as a new probie fresh off the rock as prevalent as it is in the PD??? Thanks again and good luck to all future FF'S
    hey.. your time for NYPD will count towards your career with the FDNY.. it will count at the back end I believe.. I called up about this a few weeks ago and spoke with 3 different people in the pension department, and they told me time as a police officer transers over, and I believe they also said you can stay in the same tier.. I thought tier 3 was 20 and out though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John246 View Post
    hey.. your time for NYPD will count towards your career with the FDNY.. it will count at the back end I believe.. I called up about this a few weeks ago and spoke with 3 different people in the pension department, and they told me time as a police officer transers over, and I believe they also said you can stay in the same tier.. I thought tier 3 was 20 and out though.
    Tier 3 is 22.5 years and out unless you want COLA. And when I spoke with a guy at the pension office, he said our time counts up front. It just sucks that the pay doesn't carry over (taking a 25k paycut in my case). But it's all good. It's been my dream and I've been waiting for this since 2008, when a lot of us 6019'ers got shafted. Well, hope to see y'all in January!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4040clubBouncer View Post
    For sprints try:

    2 800 (run one as a warm up)
    4 400
    8 200
    5-10 1000
    400(cool down)
    Could you break this down a bit? Not a sprinter. Don't know what the numbers mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dem7191 View Post
    MM and Ffwnt2b,

    Thanks for replying! This has what I have been doing 3-4 times a week:

    The 4 sets of the following
    30push-ups (first set, 20 the 2nd, 15 3rd, 15 4th)
    1 min plank,
    20 bicep curls with 25lbs
    30lunges
    20 tricep press with 25lbs
    30 squats
    15 shoulder press with 25lbs
    30 sitsups
    1min break

    After that I do
    Same set, do 15 push-ups and use 10lbs and do 50 bicep curls, and 30 tricep and shoulder press

    And run on the in between days 4-5 miles at 845 pace and sometime after the set as well.

    Is this an efficient way to be somewhere in the ballpark to be prepared for probie school?
    No stair master training anymore? I notice a lot of guys forget about the stairs after the medical.

    Im asking you guys in the academy, should we intensify our stair training after the medical or is it a good idea to forget it and just focus on running and sprints? I only do stairs once a week now while the rest of the week is running. But even Tho I only Do Stairs Once A week, I Make It a straight 20 Min Session (10 minutes w/50 lb vest and 10 minutes without the vest). But it seems a lot of guys stop doing it completely.

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