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    How Does everyone feel air pack or no air pack on a car fire?


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    The same way I feel about using the "SEARCH" feature and finding the 773,000 other posts started on this same topic.
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    Seriously, how does everyone feel, inhale toxic gases and smoke, or not?

    To me this is a no brainer. Wear your SCBA. I know full well I am about to be called a Safety Sally and have it explained to me how you stay up wind and out of the smoke. Really? So how do you do final extinguishment and overhaul of the interior of the car and stay out of the smoke and toxic gases?

    Frankly, I don't care what anyone else does for car fires, I am going to wear my mask.
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    http://www.greenwood78.org/images/20...8-01-23_16.jpg

    the above picture should explain why u should be wearing your SCBA on car fires. Just my 2 cents though
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    Quote Originally Posted by River Firefighter715 View Post
    How Does everyone feel air pack or no air pack on a car fire?



    How do you feel?

    I feel with two hands, but I go by procedures and policies of the department.

    Wear 'em!
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    I feel the same way with or without an air pack. I use my hands. (Sorry COT I had to borrow your saying).

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    Wear it. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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    With all the dangerous gases I firmly that believe firefighters should protect themselves, and take the necessary precautions by wearing an air-pack.

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    Why are you asking a bunch of strangers on the internet an "opinion" type question? There is more than enough scientific evidence out there , to draw your own conclusions. Does your department not have SOGs? Follow them, if you think they are unsafe, follow the chain of command and do something about it in YOUR department.
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    Look...They are there on the rig for a reason. Not just to look good and make your ISO rating better. USE THEM!! I've seen too many who have retired from Fire Departments who didn't have them in their days...die of lung cancer and other smoke related diseases . Be smart and use what tools you have.
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    There is a John Prine song , that the lyrics are "a questions not really a question -if you know the answer too"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffscm72 View Post
    http://www.greenwood78.org/images/20...8-01-23_16.jpg

    the above picture should explain why u should be wearing your SCBA on car fires. Just my 2 cents though
    Even for the guys who are obviously upwind? Standing there doing nothing? Without even a tool in their hands? Not even handling the hose?
    I agree to wear it, but really only if you're actually in there doing something

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    I make sure to park in the smoke and stand around in it. That way my wife won't think I was at the titty bar for 48 hours
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    Air is free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    I make sure to park in the smoke and stand around in it. That way my wife won't think I was at the titty bar for 48 hours
    Good answer!

    As for me- pack up! There's nothing in that smoke that I want to breathe! Besides, you don't always GET to choose to attack from the upwind. Wind currents can shift, traffic or obstructions can limit your access, plastic fuel tanks can melt and spread the fire, etc.

    Reminds me of truckies who won't mask up while working on the roof- VENTING.

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    routine car fire at croft, just up the road from my place, and boom.

    woulda been a trip to the burn center, metal explosions are not common, but they do happen, pack out when putting fires out, period.


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    Personally with all of the farts that I let in My truck seat if there was the least little amount of a spark the whole thing would go up.. and I probably wouldnt want to smell that or breath all of that in. So I use myself as a comparison and wear my SCBA
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    My answer is yes.
    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    Air is free.
    but compressing it into the air cylinders isn't..... hehe



    That picture has a few outstanding firemen in it.

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