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    Quote Originally Posted by Picc.93Truck View Post
    As much as I'd like to explore into new techniques and ways of donning the SCBA, our pack's are mounted in our seats, so thats on that way.

    When it comes to the mask's, I'm riding officer or Can-Man on the Ladder. Eather way, in a structure fire, I'm one of the first in the door, if possible. If I have confirmation, I mask up on the truck, plug in later. I function completely fine with a mask on outside a building, so it works for me. Same for car-fires, I leave the truck with a mask on to reduce the danger. I've seen Mag blow pretty far off a dashboard into the group of non-masked firefighters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherHed4Life View Post
    just drop the helmet off the back of your head and let the chinstrap hang off your neck. mask, hood, helmet up and pull the strap tight on your chin and GO.
    This is the closest technique that I have seen to what the OP is describing too. Interesting idea though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    dear god that is retarded
    yes but I needed it to demostrate the helmet placement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipys View Post
    Your still going to be wasting air by holding your breath. Your lungs are going to want more air on your first breath in and un-clicking would waste more time then just waiting to click in. (I mean you would be clicking then un-clicking then clicking) As for keeping things close helmet hangs around the neck. No chance of it getting kicked away.

    Also yes I understand that mistakes can happen but if other firefighters arent watching there steps enough to not kick someones helmet away from them. I think there being sloppy and need to watch there foot placement a little better on the fireground.


    I just really see no real advantage to this method. Only disadvantage because like I said the last thing you do before you go in is click in on air. Just the same as you don't want to free flow air when you un-click.
    Not to sound arrogant, but when I am done masking up at the door, I don't stand there and wait...I go to work. If your standing there waiting for any substantial amount of time your doing something wrong most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LADDER2EKU View Post
    Not to sound arrogant, but when I am done masking up at the door, I don't stand there and wait...I go to work. If your standing there waiting for any substantial amount of time your doing something wrong most likely.
    Not spending a substandtial amount of time at the door. Just very last thing I do is click on air. I want my hood and helmet and gloves on already. I don't want to waste a single bit of air. Because that air pack on your back is your life and that one little bit of air could be the bit of air that gets you out. Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipys View Post
    Your still going to be wasting air by holding your breath. Your lungs are going to want more air on your first breath in and un-clicking would waste more time then just waiting to click in. (I mean you would be clicking then un-clicking then clicking) As for keeping things close helmet hangs around the neck. No chance of it getting kicked away.

    Also yes I understand that mistakes can happen but if other firefighters arent watching there steps enough to not kick someones helmet away from them. I think there being sloppy and need to watch there foot placement a little better on the fireground.


    I just really see no real advantage to this method. Only disadvantage because like I said the last thing you do before you go in is click in on air. Just the same as you don't want to free flow air when you un-click.
    Sorry, this is rookie reasoning...you see a lot of rookies do that^^^no offense to you, but I can tell you haven't had many years on, or had a lot of fire duty.

    If you notice the cities that do a good deal of fire duty, especially in the northeast or even Chicago...the facepiece is put on with the regulator already attached and taken off same. In the FDNY the SCBA is treated as a single unit, the entire thing is called the "mask".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picc.93Truck View Post
    When it comes to the mask's, I'm riding officer or Can-Man on the Ladder.
    Riding officer... OR ....can?

    How and why exactly does it work that way that you are one or the other? My reason for asking is that traditionally, the hook and can is the newer or least-senior ff who will stay with the officer while locating the seat of the fire, being a position usually left for the newer members to gain experience following the officer, while at the same time being under his watchful eye. Going from either officer or that is just a funny progression. Just curious how it works there for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehouse_Chick View Post
    Riding officer... OR ....can?

    How and why exactly does it work that way that you are one or the other? My reason for asking is that traditionally, the hook and can is the newer or least-senior ff who will stay with the officer while locating the seat of the fire, being a position usually left for the newer members to gain experience following the officer, while at the same time being under his watchful eye. Going from either officer or that is just a funny progression. Just curious how it works there for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehouse_Chick View Post
    Sorry, this is rookie reasoning...you see a lot of rookies do that^^^no offense to you, but I can tell you haven't had many years on, or had a lot of fire duty.

    If you notice the cities that do a good deal of fire duty, especially in the northeast or even Chicago...the facepiece is put on with the regulator already attached and taken off same. In the FDNY the SCBA is treated as a single unit, the entire thing is called the "mask".
    Hey just remember the rookie isn't always wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    dear god that is retarded
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipys View Post
    Hey just remember the rookie isn't always wrong.
    But you are this time. You still aren't understanding what anyone is telling you. If you don't mask up until you go in then what air are you wasting? You're gloves and helmet should all be on already anyway. No need to take your gloves off to mask up.

    Remember a lot of us replying to you on here work for running departments where we do it often.(DC, NY, Fairfax, etc) I'm pretty sure we have an idea what we're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipeman1822 View Post
    But you are this time. You still aren't understanding what anyone is telling you. If you don't mask up until you go in then what air are you wasting? You're gloves and helmet should all be on already anyway. No need to take your gloves off to mask up.

    Remember a lot of us replying to you on here work for running departments where we do it often.(DC, NY, Fairfax, etc) I'm pretty sure we have an idea what we're doing.
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