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    Default A great quotation...

    This is an awesome quotation...

    "I think it takes a particular coward to criticize procedures that you don't understand; particularly when they apply to places that you don't have the bravery to go"

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    That should be a standard response here....
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    I liked it so much, I added it to my signature...
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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    ' "I think it takes a particular coward to criticize procedures that you don't understand; particularly when they apply to places that you don't have the bravery to go"

    Battalion Chief John Sullivan, FDNY'

    I know where you are coming from but if you take this logic to the next level it will fail the sanity test.

    I don't know the procedures for donning a suicide explosive vest but I am pretty sure that criticizing them doesn't make me a coward. Also, I am not certain that bravery is required to don and detonate one.

    Then again, sane people run out of burning buildings. Nearly everyone I know runs into them. My judgement might not be the best.

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    Excellent and extremely relevant quote from a very disturbing article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    I liked it so much, I added it to my signature...
    Weren't you one of the four horsemen that was breaking some noobs ballz about signatures being longer than their posts years ago?
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    I've never ridden a horse... but I drive a Mustang...
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    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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    Enough said!


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    Quote Originally Posted by firepundit View Post
    ' "I think it takes a particular coward to criticize procedures that you don't understand; particularly when they apply to places that you don't have the bravery to go"

    Battalion Chief John Sullivan, FDNY'

    I know where you are coming from but if you take this logic to the next level it will fail the sanity test.

    I don't know the procedures for donning a suicide explosive vest but I am pretty sure that criticizing them doesn't make me a coward. Also, I am not certain that bravery is required to don and detonate one.

    Then again, sane people run out of burning buildings. Nearly everyone I know runs into them. My judgement might not be the best.
    This is absolutely the most idiotic "slippery slope" argument ive ever seen.
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    firepundit, I'm not sure you're digging the meaning of the quote. To paraphrase, how about this:

    If you don't have the grapes to face the danger I am willing to face, don't criticize the way I face it.
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    NICE Conversion! T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firepundit View Post
    ' "I think it takes a particular coward to criticize procedures that you don't understand; particularly when they apply to places that you don't have the bravery to go"

    Battalion Chief John Sullivan, FDNY'

    I know where you are coming from but if you take this logic to the next level it will fail the sanity test.

    I don't know the procedures for donning a suicide explosive vest but I am pretty sure that criticizing them doesn't make me a coward. Also, I am not certain that bravery is required to don and detonate one.

    Then again, sane people run out of burning buildings. Nearly everyone I know runs into them. My judgement might not be the best.
    Thats a pretty illogical statement you've made there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    I've never ridden a horse... but I drive a Mustang...
    Where is the lightbar? LOL

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    That ain't HIS Work wagon,THAT be the AFTER hours entertainment. Stealth mode. T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    That ain't HIS Work wagon,THAT be the AFTER hours entertainment. Stealth mode. T.C.
    Here's the work wagon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Where is the lightbar? LOL
    Hey - our state police ran Mustangs and Camaros for a while for freeway work. All tricked out, too.
    Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    Here's the work wagon...
    Hey Harve, Look Gonzo starting to see the light! It's only a small Yellow stripe, but at least he it's a step in the right direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    This is an awesome quotation...
    Hey LA, he talking to YOU!
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    “Guys if you get hurt, we’ll help you. If you get sick we’ll treat you. If you want to bitch and moan, then all I can tell you is to flick the sand out of your slit, suck it up or get the hell out!”
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    This is absolutely the most idiotic "slippery slope" argument ive ever seen.
    Thanks for this post. I was thinking the very same thing but wondered if maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BULL321 View Post
    Hey Harve, Look Gonzo starting to see the light! It's only a small Yellow stripe, but at least he it's a step in the right direction.
    It isn't yellow... it is gold Scotchlight reflective striping. All of our rigs have it.
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