Parking lot...Yes. See above.
Should have added that when I was assigned to the rescue, I'd just wear NFPA approved coveralls and a hood, helmet and gloves. We had an engine company for suppression if needed, so I didn't get oil, gas and blood on my turnout gear.
Honestly, I think vests are much ado about nothing. I haven't seen a recent incident in the last 6 months that I've paid attention to, where a vest would've made a difference in a LODD or serious injury. Seems to me that just about every firefighter that's been hit was hit by a drunk drivers that already disregarded lights/cones/reflective striping, or a vehicle that was already out of control that hit them. I want to rely more on a big hunk of something between me and the morons, along with a bit of situational awareness. Short of that, give me a spare guy with a bazooka. Vests are nice when we do fill the boot though.
We go with whatever the scene dictates. Lots of times it's bunker pants, a denim coat, and a ball cap. But, like I said, it's whatever the scene dictates. As for the vests; if my company is on the highway, there will be at least four other companies, the highway is shut down, and will be for quite some time. If I thought it a good idea I'd wear it though.
Conspicuity research disagrees.Quote:
I think it just looks good on paper but in reality has about zero effect on an emergency scene.
Blocking vehicles and good situational awareness both help. So does making yourself more conspicuous.Quote:
I just don't put any faith in them any rely more on blocking vehicles and keeping a watchfull eye.
Seriously, is it all that painful to put on a vest?
To say that the vest doesn't make you more visible is to ignore common sense and science.
If we never got off the big ol' red truck, you would have a valid point.
This reminds me of the arguments against SCBA use and booster lines for structure fires.
Ignoring for a moment that we're required to wear them by law anyway, I personally think that the greatly improved conspicuity is well worth the infinitesimal bit of extra effort it takes to put the vest on.
Probably true. But that's no reason not to wear a traffic vest anyway.Quote:
Even if you have a jumpsuit covered with LED's, some moron would still try to run you over.
Everybody on the engine should have a vest with them regardless of what they happen to be wearing today.Quote:
(BTW, I'm driving the engine today so I have my vest with me, because my sweat shirt isn't reflective.)
Still haven't heard any good reason not to wear a vest....
"Not necessarily flaggers but, in addition to blocking off a buffer zone around them as well as practical, somebody should be watching their backs."
I agree. To me, this is much better protection than a vest.