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    Quote Originally Posted by edge1317 View Post
    No fans of the accordian lay around here?
    No manufacturer of LDH that I am aware of recommends that LDH be loaded in an accordian load. The idea is that impacting that weight on the narrow edge of the hose prematurely wears, or damages, the hose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edge1317 View Post
    No fans of the accordian lay around here?

    Who said anything about accordian lay for LDH, anyhow?


    We still pack some 2-1/2 in accordian on special type units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    No manufacturer of LDH that I am aware of recommends that LDH be loaded in an accordian load. The idea is that impacting that weight on the narrow edge of the hose prematurely wears, or damages, the hose.
    Hmm, last department bedded accordian. Never noticed any wear on the edge. You do have a point though, is there any warning against loading it like this from manufacturers or seen examples of damage? Our accordian load payed out nicely, was very uniform and less of a risk of unintentional deployment since accordian loads will expand slightly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by edge1317 View Post
    Hmm, last department bedded accordian. Never noticed any wear on the edge. You do have a point though, is there any warning against loading it like this from manufacturers or seen examples of damage? Our accordian load payed out nicely, was very uniform and less of a risk of unintentional deployment since accordian loads will expand slightly...
    I have a video from I believe Snap-Tite made several years ago on use of LDH and in the video they recommend flat loading it due to the abrasion and possible damage from the edge striking the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    I have a video from I believe Snap-Tite made several years ago on use of LDH and in the video they recommend flat loading it due to the abrasion and possible damage from the edge striking the road.
    Guess I'll mention it to them next time I talk to someone up there, doubt they would even consider it though. As for damage from striking the road, I'd go as far as saying that it is just a likely or even less likely to be damaged as a flat lay. The edge doesn't contact the road, you'd pull off the LDH at the beginning of the lay and it pays off VERY smoothly and takes the quarter twist to lay on the ground before contacting the ground. Where with the flat lay you sometimes get the kind of jerking/slapping motion when pulling each length out.

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    Our Hose wagon is accordian load of 3000ft of 5". Three layers of 1000ft. The hosebed is 8' wide so that seems to be the most efficient use of the space. Positive is that the hose makes only a nice smooth 90degree "turn" as it is laid rather than a 180 degree "snap".

    I can't see that laying LDH at 15mph you can predict in what orientation the hose hits the ground. Or that it matters. Comes of the back of the truck an gravity and many other variables take if downward nearly 100% of the time.

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    Heck guys, don't get all bent out of shape at me over it. I merely posted what I was told by LDH manufacturers and what the video I had said.

    I didn't tell anyone to change anything and how you load your hose has zero effect on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Heck guys, don't get all bent out of shape at me over it. I merely posted what I was told by LDH manufacturers and what the video I had said.

    I didn't tell anyone to change anything and how you load your hose has zero effect on me.
    Just out of morbid curiosity...how did any of them get bent out of shape? You brought up a point, and they brought up counterpoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Heck guys, don't get all bent out of shape at me over it. I merely posted what I was told by LDH manufacturers and what the video I had said.

    I didn't tell anyone to change anything and how you load your hose has zero effect on me.
    Same here, I was under the impression that the LDH manufacturers all stated no edge loading. My thought is that it has more to do with riding on its edges 90% of the time, not an issue of being laid. Wouldn't change a thing here due to our beds. Not to mention hose bed size really is about cubic feet, I doubt edge loads can be as efficient as flat loads that use the hose weight to compress the load?

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    And I bet no one here except maybe some of the older guys who are located within close proximity to the Philadelphia area even know what Jones Snap couplings are...............
    And many of our companies still carry some jones snap couplings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Heck guys, don't get all bent out of shape at me over it. I merely posted what I was told by LDH manufacturers and what the video I had said.

    I didn't tell anyone to change anything and how you load your hose has zero effect on me.
    I'm not bent out of shape, just discussing it and sharing my views. Felt it was good discussion, gave me something to share with my old dept. so that even if they don't change their load they can keep an eye out to see if there is any abnormal wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edge1317 View Post
    I'm not bent out of shape, just discussing it and sharing my views. Felt it was good discussion, gave me something to share with my old dept. so that even if they don't change their load they can keep an eye out to see if there is any abnormal wear.
    We're cool. I could have phrased that better. I didn't mean to get all up in your grill!
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