Here are the demands, that I found attributed to a good majority of them. They should change their group's name to "Bankrupt America Now".
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Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
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10-07-2011, 03:19 PM #1
Occupy Wall Street Demands
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10-08-2011, 12:02 AM #255 Years & Still Rolling
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Stupidity lives!!.............
Good God. How do people who dream up this kind of Crap manage to escape capture and stay out of the Looney Bin???............ None of these "Demands" are anywhere close to reasonable. #4 "College Tuition" is excessively stupid. There are way too many people going to College now, much less a few years down the road yet.
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10-08-2011, 03:37 AM #3
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They shouldn't be too hard to capture now... most of them are out in the streets.
But the Govenrnment seems to be on their side at the moment.
Anyone up for "Occupy Pennsylvania Avenue"?HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL
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10-08-2011, 09:56 AM #455 Years & Still Rolling
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And...............
Sounds like a good place to start...... Longer ago than I want to remember, I was among a group of highly annoyed Firefighters who put 125 pieces of apparatus from 9 states across the street from the White House...... 5 minutes into Pres. Clinton's weekly Press conference, we opened up with all of the Sirens and Air Horns we had. Everyone came out of the White House, leaving the Prez to himself..........
The protest was over a Labor Department ruling on the Fair Labor Standards Act, and our concerns were addressed in a revised version........Last edited by hwoods; 10-08-2011 at 09:58 AM.
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10-08-2011, 10:18 AM #6
Those bastard......a living wage..harumphh...
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10-08-2011, 01:49 PM #7
I support what they're doing. So should everyone else. Were the banks forced to give loans? Deregulation and no credit agency oversight is what killed us.
The banks knew what they were doing, they knew it was wrong, and they didn't get any punishment for it, and not only did they get to keep the money they made. They demanded taxpayer bailouts to keep from going under and now refuse to allow any regulations that would prevent these circumstances from repeating.
In case none of you have noticed, local government is getting destroyed by the conservative movement with claims that public employees are overpaid and underworked. And they're not discerning between public safety and non-public safety individuals. If I lived in NY, I'd be out there with them.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
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10-08-2011, 02:19 PM #8
oh good, I was hoping for the strawman argument. Continue!
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10-08-2011, 05:38 PM #11
I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.
"The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."
"When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."
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10-08-2011, 05:39 PM #12
I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.
"The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."
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10-08-2011, 06:55 PM #13Savage / Hyneman 08'
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Hypocrites.
They were paying non-english speaking folks to carry signs for the "protest".
They were not paying them the $20 per hour the protesters demand in #1.
So I guess $20 per hour is only for the protesters, not any real paid employee.We do not rise to the occasion. We fall back to our level of training.
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10-08-2011, 07:00 PM #14Savage / Hyneman 08'
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10-08-2011, 08:03 PM #17
Equality would mean your race, religion, sex, or age wouldn't be a factor in your hiring. Asking to be considered equal while asking to place your race, religion, sex, or age above others to meet a X amount of said persons isn't equality.
Don't start trying whatever straw-man argument you're attempting, I'd hate for you to lose any more creditability you might have left."I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey
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