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    Ok, I'm sure this question is like beating a dead horse..... but does anyone have a current updated list on all the ISO Class 1 departments, or a link to such a list. Found another thread on here about it but the list is from about 10 yrs ago.

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    Not that many out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenM91 View Post
    Ok, I'm sure this question is like beating a dead horse..... but does anyone have a current updated list on all the ISO Class 1 departments, or a link to such a list. Found another thread on here about it but the list is from about 10 yrs ago.
    Considering the state of the economy right now....good luck.
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    I can honestly say if your studying for a Fire Department Oral Exam...."They will not ask that question." I'm with FireFuss..."Why do you need to know ??"
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    The ISO and their "Class 1 Fire Dept" rating lost a lot of credibility after Charleston.

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    Off the top of my head...

    Cambridge MA
    Mesquite TX
    Milford CT
    Baton Rouge LA
    Greensboro NC
    Fallon NV
    Syracuse NY
    Lisle Woodridge IL
    Hoboken NJ
    Arcadia CA
    Bossier City LA
    Anaheim CA
    Huntington Beach CA
    Pembroke Pines FL
    Vernon CA
    Holley Mountain Airpark AR
    Skokie IL
    Hialea FL
    Beverly Hills CA
    Orlando FL
    Apopka FL
    Cedar Park TX
    Euless TX
    Torrance CA
    Glendale CA

    Unless something has changed very recently, like in the last year, those are all current Class 1's in the US. Their are more then that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WD6956 View Post
    Off the top of my head...
    Wow dude, I thought I needed to get a life!

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    As a firefighter who worked for a Class 1 Department, and this is my own opinion, the Class 1 rating is just a load of BS.

    I never saw any benefits from it to the firefighters and in fact, in order to fufill some of the requirements, it became a nuisance. I won't go into details because anyone can read these forums, but Class 1 is not all it is cracked up to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spencer534 View Post
    Wow dude, I thought I needed to get a life!
    Right, because knowing about your chosen occupation means you have no life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WD6956 View Post
    Right, because knowing about your chosen occupation means you have no life.
    Hey man, it was not my intention to put you down, just making light of the fact that you know that off the top of your head. I agree that we should know about the fire service as well. It was a joke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spencer534 View Post
    Hey man, it was not my intention to put you down, just making light of the fact that you know that off the top of your head. I agree that we should know about the fire service as well. It was a joke!
    "Off the top of my head" was a bit of an exxageration. I had recently read a list and those names stuck, but i had to double check them via Google to make sure.

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    I've been going to fires since the 70's and have never seen an ISO guy on the scene of a working fire. When they start rating how they witness our work then I'll open my mind more.

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    There seems to be some big departments that failed to make "YOUR" list. Like LAFD and Long Beach Fire Department......

    Just saying.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by The5thBattalion View Post
    As a firefighter who worked for a Class 1 Department, and this is my own opinion, the Class 1 rating is just a load of BS.

    I never saw any benefits from it to the firefighters and in fact, in order to fufill some of the requirements, it became a nuisance. I won't go into details because anyone can read these forums, but Class 1 is not all it is cracked up to be.
    You may not have seen the direct benifits, but I am sure there were plenty of indirect. Lowering your insurance rating for the community results in lower property taxes, which means more people may want to live and work there, which equals a higher tax base. And we all know what that means.

    And for the record, memorizing the list of Class 1 departments has no bearing what so ever on my "chosen occupation" as a line firefighter.
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    There isn't that much difference in insurance cost for the average citizen, between a Class 1 and a Class 2, FD and City.

    Besides all the extra work that has to be done to try and get a Class 1 isn't really worth it. All the equipment the ISO says you have to carry on your rigs isn't worth having to buy them.

    If you like having CLASS 1 painted on your apparatus or stationary, so be it.

    I'm happy with the Class 2 status.
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    Shreveport, LA is also on that list.

    Bossier City gets rated next year and there has already been hints by the new Chief, that due to the budget reduction and ensuing manpower cuts 2 years ago, the city may drop to a 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    There isn't that much difference in insurance cost for the average citizen, between a Class 1 and a Class 2, FD and City.

    Besides all the extra work that has to be done to try and get a Class 1 isn't really worth it. All the equipment the ISO says you have to carry on your rigs isn't worth having to buy them.

    If you like having CLASS 1 painted on your apparatus or stationary, so be it.

    I'm happy with the Class 2 status.
    Agreed. The homeowner doesn't feel a thing. The city that had the ISO class 1 rating also had the highest property taxes in the county, but was also one of the poorest in the county. Property taxes were high in order to bring in revenue due to low home prices and a low median income. Neighboring cities that were not class 1 had cheaper property taxes and were more prosperous.

    Carrying all that extra crap on the rig was a nuisance like I said previously. Like CaptainOldTimer said, its just extra paint in the end.

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    A neighboring department placed staffing, built a station (metal, "Butler" building) and moved a reserve engine to an area with protection that was 11 miles away. The ISO class went from a 9 to a 5. They got tremendous support from the citizens in that area both politically and financially because the Fire Chief told them they would receive a big decrease in insurance. The savings per year were from $272 to $684 per house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spencer534 View Post
    A neighboring department placed staffing, built a station (metal, "Butler" building) and moved a reserve engine to an area with protection that was 11 miles away. The ISO class went from a 9 to a 5. They got tremendous support from the citizens in that area both politically and financially because the Fire Chief told them they would receive a big decrease in insurance. The savings per year were from $272 to $684 per house.
    But they didn't feel a thing right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayDudley View Post
    There seems to be some big departments that failed to make "YOUR" list. Like LAFD and Long Beach Fire Department......

    Just saying.....
    Actually LAFD did not seek to renew their Class 1 status in the late 90's if I am not mistaken. I believe they are now a Class 2. If I remember correctly they stated something to the effect that there were better ways to measure their effectiveness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    But they didn't feel a thing right?
    Hello sarcasm!

    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to realize that going from a Class 9 to a Class 5 will help the citizens, especially since the closest engine was 11 miles away.

    We're not talking about going from super rural to adding some much needed protection.... we're talking about the upper echelon, Class 1.

    In my area, there is a department with a huge tax base, lots of $$$, the best equipment and they train more than anyone I know. Their issue, water supply. Almost 50% of your rating is based on your water supply. While this department consists of mostly suburban areas with hydrants every 150', the department took over some smaller, more rural departments and had to drop their rating in order to do so.

    Did the citizens feel a change? I guess not, being that they did not inundate the mayors office with phone calls, nor was it all over the newspapers.

    Some of the best departments in the country are no where near being a Class 1 Department. I'm pretty sure that they do a good job of saving lives and property and no one seems to ask "Whats your ISO rating" upon arrival of the first engine. As someone previously posted, if ISO starts showing up to fire scenes and begins rating the work, then I too will probably be more impressed.

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    Also, if Class 1 proved to have such a grand effect on lowering taxes, why aren't more cities and citizens pushing their departments to be Class 1?

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    5th....It takes money and lots of it to upgrade your water,dispatching and coverage of your Fire District.Not to mention response times and personnel to name a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayDudley View Post
    5th....It takes money and lots of it to upgrade your water,dispatching and coverage of your Fire District.Not to mention response times and personnel to name a few.
    Exactly.
    How would your city/county/district get the money to upgrade? By adding taxes. So in the end, jumping a few classes will save you tax money on one end (and very minimal) but will raise your bill substantially on the other.

    That is probably one of the biggest reasons why there are so very few Class 1 departments. Its not worth it for the minimal savings.

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