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    Default Rescue Truck/Pumper Rescue

    My combi department is looking to replace our rescue truck, and we're exploring various options of what kind of setup we want. Right now we operate a standard rescue thats first out, followed by an engine and a personnel carrier. We're looking primarily at the pros/cons of doing a pumper/rescue (minimum to stay as a class A) or a heavy rescue alone, each a 6 man cab. Each to be followed by a personnel carrier for cribbing, man power, etc. If we go with a pumper/rescue, we could get rid of 1 engine.

    Right now we house 4 engines (including 2 "county" engines), 1 truck, 1 rescue, and 1 personnel carrier. Each first out engine also carries basic cribbing, portable power unit, and combi tool.

    We have a major 4-lane US route traveling through our city (Corridor H) that when finished will be a major connecting route to DC area. We also have a large influx of oil/gas and mining trucks that is placing a heavier demand on heavy rescue.

    Just want to see what others experiences are with a pumper/rescue setup or how other rescues are ran.

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    Really impressed with the Pierce PUC tamdem axel Heavy Rescue. There are two companies in eastern PA that run them, replacing an Engine and Rescue with one unit.

    I can only find one of them off hand. Job number 23028 (Souderton), on Pierce's page you can find the drawings
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    I have been in contact via email with the fire company and they freely shared their specs and compartment inventory. They seem happy with their PUC.
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    Dunkirk, MD runs a rescue engine as a rescue (or "squad" in local parlance).

    While the apparatus is in all respects a pumper, it's function is as a rescue vehicle - it carries a hydraulic tool and the other tools of the trade and generally does not fight fire.

    They also run two engines - as engines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLyman View Post
    Really impressed with the Pierce PUC tamdem axel Heavy Rescue. There are two companies in eastern PA that run them, replacing an Engine and Rescue with one unit.

    I can only find one of them off hand. Job number 23028 (Souderton), on Pierce's page you can find the drawings
    http://www.piercemfg.com/en/experien...-Duty-Res.aspx

    I have been in contact via email with the fire company and they freely shared their specs and compartment inventory. They seem happy with their PUC.
    That's a great looking setup, and nearly what we have been thinking. Another feature, that I have only seen on 1 apparatus ever, is a oil dry chute. In behind the pump panel was a small silo, with a chute coming out underneath. Place a bucket under the chute, turn the lever and whammo... full bucket of oil dry.

    The specs and plans of that are very nice... We are looking into this as a 20 year truck. SO we need to allow for extra space for down the road, just not what our current needs are. Also looking into carrying hydraulic, as well as e-draulic tools as we have some remote areas and cars into some major ravines that are out of reach of installed hydraulic lines, and have to repel a power unit into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    Dunkirk, MD runs a rescue engine as a rescue (or "squad" in local parlance).

    While the apparatus is in all respects a pumper, it's function is as a rescue vehicle - it carries a hydraulic tool and the other tools of the trade and generally does not fight fire.

    They also run two engines - as engines.
    That's the basis we are looking into with a rescue/pumper. We keep the class A rating for ISO purposes, and it can be utilized for car fires, etc. We don't plan to use it for an attack pumper, unless need be. If out on a MVA, we then have the potential to respond to a structure fire, without having to relay back to station to switch out apparatus. We would have 3 other engines to utilize for attack purposes.

    I think our biggest thing is we only keep the 4 engines for our ISO rating. If we could combined two into 1, it would be fantastic (plus a little easier on the savings account!) We just want to be sure we aren't going to compromise too much space with a pumper. Spec'd a local truck with 1,000 gal tank... it had hardly any space for rescue tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyT373 View Post
    That's a great looking setup, and nearly what we have been thinking. Another feature, that I have only seen on 1 apparatus ever, is a oil dry chute. In behind the pump panel was a small silo, with a chute coming out underneath. Place a bucket under the chute, turn the lever and whammo... full bucket of oil dry.
    This is a very common option, with many options to consider. We ended up with a roll-out bin in the wheel well area (typically scba/ext. storage) that holds about 25 lbs of speedy dri. This set up was favored over guys climbing up or passing the 50 lb bags up to the top coffin area.

    I might suggest moving this thread to the apparatus forum, where you get more focus on apparatus specifics. thought the comments here all seem quite relevant, many of the apparatus forum posters aren't popping up here, some with extensive speccing/selling/maintaining experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFDACM02 View Post
    This is a very common option, with many options to consider. We ended up with a roll-out bin in the wheel well area (typically scba/ext. storage) that holds about 25 lbs of speedy dri. This set up was favored over guys climbing up or passing the 50 lb bags up to the top coffin area.

    I might suggest moving this thread to the apparatus forum, where you get more focus on apparatus specifics. thought the comments here all seem quite relevant, many of the apparatus forum posters aren't popping up here, some with extensive speccing/selling/maintaining experience.
    I will relocate it to the apparatus forum. I'm not sure how to fully move it, so I will just repost.

    Thanks for all the great info guys.

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