My combi department is looking to replace our rescue truck, and we're exploring various options of what kind of setup we want. Right now we operate a standard rescue thats first out, followed by an engine and a personnel carrier. We're looking primarily at the pros/cons of doing a pumper/rescue (minimum to stay as a class A) or a heavy rescue alone, each a 6 man cab. Each to be followed by a personnel carrier for cribbing, man power, etc. If we go with a pumper/rescue, we could get rid of 1 engine.
Right now we house 4 engines (including 2 "county" engines), 1 truck, 1 rescue, and 1 personnel carrier. Each first out engine also carries basic cribbing, portable power unit, and combi tool.
We have a major 4-lane US route traveling through our city (Corridor H) that when finished will be a major connecting route to DC area. We also have a large influx of oil/gas and mining trucks that is placing a heavier demand on heavy rescue.
Just want to see what others experiences are with a pumper/rescue setup or how other rescues are ran.
Thanks in advance
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Thread: Rescue Truck/Pumper Rescue
10-20-2011, 05:18 PM #1
Rescue Truck/Pumper Rescue
10-20-2011, 06:02 PM #2
Really impressed with the Pierce PUC tamdem axel Heavy Rescue. There are two companies in eastern PA that run them, replacing an Engine and Rescue with one unit.
I can only find one of them off hand. Job number 23028 (Souderton), on Pierce's page you can find the drawings
I have been in contact via email with the fire company and they freely shared their specs and compartment inventory. They seem happy with their PUC.~Drew
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10-20-2011, 11:34 PM #3
Dunkirk, MD runs a rescue engine as a rescue (or "squad" in local parlance).
While the apparatus is in all respects a pumper, it's function is as a rescue vehicle - it carries a hydraulic tool and the other tools of the trade and generally does not fight fire.
They also run two engines - as engines.Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.
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10-21-2011, 03:50 PM #4
The specs and plans of that are very nice... We are looking into this as a 20 year truck. SO we need to allow for extra space for down the road, just not what our current needs are. Also looking into carrying hydraulic, as well as e-draulic tools as we have some remote areas and cars into some major ravines that are out of reach of installed hydraulic lines, and have to repel a power unit into.
10-21-2011, 03:55 PM #5
I think our biggest thing is we only keep the 4 engines for our ISO rating. If we could combined two into 1, it would be fantastic (plus a little easier on the savings account!) We just want to be sure we aren't going to compromise too much space with a pumper. Spec'd a local truck with 1,000 gal tank... it had hardly any space for rescue tools.
10-21-2011, 10:52 PM #6
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10-22-2011, 09:32 AM #7
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I might suggest moving this thread to the apparatus forum, where you get more focus on apparatus specifics. thought the comments here all seem quite relevant, many of the apparatus forum posters aren't popping up here, some with extensive speccing/selling/maintaining experience.
10-22-2011, 10:44 AM #8
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