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    Here's one to think about. How would your agency handle this one? T.C.
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    Cleaning up your backyard?

    Any info on passengers: Location, status? How far into the woods?

    My initial thought would be to remove the tree and then use Rams to unroll the taco.
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    For the purpose of the discussion we will say one driver,vehicle is within 15' of road shoulder and your ram is OOS. I'll supply the complete "how we did it" later. T.C.
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    If the Ram's were OOS, then I'd try to achieve the same thing using chains, winches..etc. Secure the rear of the vehicle and then run a chain/cable over the front/hood to an anchor point with a winch. That should allow the front to unroll and gain access to the passenger compartment footwell, or what's left of it.
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    You're working TOO hard, Take another CLOSE look. I'm trying to get a few more players,and I'll tell you how we did it. Was WAY easier than I envisioned. T.C.

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    Sawzall down the center of the of the crease. You now have 2 parts that can be pulled apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuntPA View Post
    Sawzall down the center of the of the crease. You now have 2 parts that can be pulled apart.
    That is what I was thinking....the drive shaft is probably toast anyway, exhaust shouldn't be an issue.....looks like there is probably acces to get through the underside/floor.

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    THINK people! FRONT WHEEL DRIVE,NO driveshaft. Where IS the Driver? And you want to SAWSALL the place they are most apt to be? FOCUS! And try again. T.C.

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    ok - I'll throw this out there...driver is long gone! From all the debris in/around the vehicle, it was washed down river during the flooding.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasobuff View Post
    ok - I'll throw this out there...driver is long gone! From all the debris in/around the vehicle, it was washed down river during the flooding.....
    WRONG again,this wreck is less than 15 mins old at the time of our arrival. T.C.

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    Couple more for perspective. T.C,
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    Hi

    Remove the tree, relocate some of the roof and access the driver?

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    Still not a good picture of the driver's side. How badly is that side damaged?

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    If it was a fatal, get the coroner involved early to do their thing. Do what needs to be done done to get the car out and flat-bedded. Haul it down to the impound lot. Extricate with no prying eyes and/or nosey public with advice from coroner.
    Like it or not, its not always possible to not disturb the body in pin jobs such as these. The coroner can document everything, especially if there is any type of investigation.
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    we had an accident almost exactly like this last november except the tree was a bigger pine tree. once the tree was removed we noticed the car was completely cut in two halfs just behind the driver seat. the car struck the tree on the front passenger side pushing the front passenger into the back seat. the pt ended up dying, the driver and back seat passenger survived. very lengthy extrication

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnycutter View Post
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    Remove the tree, relocate some of the roof and access the driver?
    That's the ticket JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPFDRum View Post
    If it was a fatal, get the coroner involved early to do their thing. Do what needs to be done done to get the car out and flat-bedded. Haul it down to the impound lot. Extricate with no prying eyes and/or nosey public with advice from coroner.
    Like it or not, its not always possible to not disturb the body in pin jobs such as these. The coroner can document everything, especially if there is any type of investigation.
    Was a K (Fatal)and we did it on site(Road CLOSED). Total extrication 10 minutes. I'll post a few more tomorrow. we removed the roof and put three guys front and back and it just straightened out. Became a routine operation once the roof was off. T.C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bburton View Post
    Still not a good picture of the driver's side. How badly is that side damaged?
    Drivers side looks pretty much like the passengers side. T.c.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasobuff View Post
    That is what I was thinking....the drive shaft is probably toast anyway, exhaust shouldn't be an issue.....looks like there is probably acces to get through the underside/floor.
    And not to be overly critical; How many floors/vehicle undersides have you cut? For ME, it will be the LAST place I go and only after everything else has been carefully considered and discarded. Slow,blind,labor intensive with generally less than optimum results. I've had to do it,but NEVER enjoyed it. T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    For the purpose of the discussion we will say one driver,vehicle is within 15' of road shoulder and your ram is OOS. I'll supply the complete "how we did it" later. T.C.
    We have a total of 10 Rams on two trucks, so we wouldnt have an issue. But we have plenty of other options including spreaders, come-alongs, grip-hoists and hi-lift jacks

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