I thought rule of three applied to actual interviews and not Manager of safety picks....
Negative. See post #410.
Anyone on the inside have any info as to the overall direction that DFD is heading. From the looks of this round of testing, they may be taking more recruits than they have in the past years/testings. In other words is the DFD on the upswing in hirings? Just curious.
FYI, they have started progressing those of us further down the list so that's usually promising news that more academies are forthcoming. It seems like overkill for just a March and Sept academy, but it's purely speculation. What else would we do with our time while we wait, right?! :D
Consists of 2 scenarios:
Recruits operate as 2 engine co.s and report to 27th floor to the staging area. Elevators are out. They need to bring with them all the basic equipment needed to initiate fire attack. For each recruit this includes PPE, SCBA, spare cylinder, 50 ft section of 2.5 inch, 1 force entry tool. Also, 1 DFD standpipe equipment kit per engine co. This task is usually timed, but not done on air. Upon reaching the 27th floor, they unload extra equipment and stage it. Then are assigned to advance a 150ft 2.5 inch handline from the standpipe on the 28th floor up and out onto the 29th floor in a simulated fire attack. This is also timed. Time is stopped when the charged hoseline enters the fire floor from the stairwell. In the past, recruit firefighters have been consistently able to get water on the simulated fire in about 15 mins from the time they left the lobby. Pretty awesome.
Truck co. assignment-
Recruits are given the assignment to search the attack stairwell above the fire floor. Go on air just below 29th floor and climb to the top floor (44th) where they find an unconscious downed firefighter. They need to hook the downed FF up to the RIT air pack, and then carry the FF down below the fire floor. They are not allowed to drag the FF and also should complete the evolution before any member of the truck co. runs out of air.
There is also a water supply evolution, but it is far less taxing than the ones outlined above. If it seems like a lot, it absolutely is.
Hope this helps. Stay safe
For all out of state applicant ! I remember this question popped up couple times- where to stay? I just recently passed by DFD training grounds and saw an apartment complex like 5 mins away walking distance from the grounds. Did some research online: should be around $650 for 1 bed, and $700-800 for 2. Decent reviews on renting sites,negative reviews on google plus, place doesn't look too old. "Pinecrest Apartments homes", phone number 303 289 6167, office hours M-F 8-5. Looks like no pets allowed. I think if you're single and on a tight budget then that might be a place to consider. I didn't get the flyer because office was closed already.Hope it helps somebody!!!
P.S. I am not affiliated with that place in any way,lol.
Do you know how the list develops from here? Now that one class has been chosen, the rest of the names remain on the list, but do we get re-ranked? Do ranks even matter at this point?
Also, would you be willing to explain the Rule of Three for us? I've read up on it and think I understand, but would appreciate an insider's take. Thanks again, you've been a huge help to everyone on here.
IMO, Anybody that is on this forum and would hold out on a department over a conditional offer of hire with another dept is crazy. Anybody can lateral once in and established. But to hold out for Denver over the Springs, is a huge mistake. Denver is great, but a paid career dept is what you should desire. The process is tough, as you all know, and reading your posts brings back memories, and it is a tough process, more mentally than anything. Like I stated a few weeks ago, the rule of three is a Denver thing, and you will never get an answer why you were passed up. Take the opportunity and keep testing. The eligibility numbers mean nothing. I have ridden for the last 5 years next to a guy in my class that was 130 spots further down the list. As far as credentials, the only thing that helps at all is previous full time career. I came from LAFD and I know the last class had 2 LAFD guys. It all comes down in the interview to reasoning, teamwork, reliability and equality. Stay strong and see ya downtown. Oh yah, When you make it, dont show up to the Tower or your 1st house with an N6A. If you dont know what this is, your safe. If you know, dont do it. Just a little inside heads up. Good luck and keep positive
Once again, all info is from someone who went through it and has known many as well, but is still coming from someone that doesn't wear a suit. :)
Thank you for the info as well Scott.
Although this does reinforce my fears that I might get passed over again in the future since I am a higher rank, it's nice to know how it works. I get the bad feeling that if you are passed over once you might not have a chance when your file is re-reviewed for the next academy.....think this is likely?
Again, thanks for the insight. It would be an absolute dream come true to make it on DFD so it's hard not to put extreme pressure on myself to make it (and like you said it's a mystery at this stage). Best place to work...that's all I've heard from every member....keeping fingers crossed.
For those of us that have been fortunate to continue on in the process, how does the interview process go? How many do they interview for the positions available? Being from the Los Angeles area myself like you were, do they look down on out of state applicants?
And coming from California, if your not coming from another large paid dept, good luck. They dont love us, but if you show up knowing every major street, districts, staffing, companies and pertinent FD stats, your good to go.
Have you ever heard of, or work with, guys being passed over for the first academy but then making it on the next one?
Very interesting. Thanks, Scott. That's how I understood Rule of Three. Thanks for clarifying.
I'm waiting to hear about Co.Springs Final offer and would be thrilled to get on down there. Still, cautiously optimistic that Denver is still an option down the road, after being passed over this time around. Thanks again!
oooor not. fml