11-05-2011, 10:30 AM #26
- Join Date
- May 1999
- Here, There, Everywhere
The Military doesn't always let you pick and choose your job...you volunteered to serve them not for them to cater to your needs.
Furthermore while I consider it a BS excuse for 98% of applicants(I'm conceeding there are a few legit cases of poverty but I'm probably over compensating with a 2% figure) Asking 60,000 applicants for the FDNY to all obtain EMS certs for a firemans job exam that might hire 3000-4000 over the life of the list seems a bit unrealistic.
Second of all, why do they need relevant job training when we will send them thru the accademy and teach them everything they need to know. While it would make sense to require prospective applicants to take a prep course and prepare for a job relevant exam like LSATS MCATS...etc are to their fields of endevor, it has been cited as a "barrier to employment" for minorities who just can't be bothered to prepare themselves for a competitive job market and profesional career field.
Your ignorance on this subject matter is staggering...perhaps before comming to the defense of hustlers and bigots you should do some research (the links I provided are a good start) and then get back to us.
11-05-2011, 10:31 AM #27
Dude, just curious- Why cant the minority applicants study to take the exam and obtain a position based on their own hard work and merit?"Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."
11-05-2011, 12:04 PM #28
Except there are certain political groups that live for suits like this and talk those who didn't make it into suing. It's happened here at my much smaller department and is absolutely happening there. I think it's absolutely foolish to think minority applicants are only getting in through law suits, but if thats how you get by, more power to you."I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey
11-05-2011, 12:36 PM #29
11-05-2011, 02:25 PM #30
You are completely oblivious to what I just said. That's fine, have a nice day."I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey
11-05-2011, 02:55 PM #31
11-05-2011, 05:08 PM #32
Many get through via lawsuits, dumbed down standards (whether they be dumbed down written tests or easier physical testing.) That being said, in recent times official census tabulations have determined that white (caucasians) are now the minority in many cities.
Therefore, I think they should now sue to get on the job or take advantage of minority hiring standards that many cities are currently employing (whether they are voluntary or court ordered.) After all, whats good for the goose is good for the gander."Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."
11-05-2011, 05:25 PM #33
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