Hoping to get some excellent feedback, especially knowing the wealth of knowledge that often visits the forum board. I'm putting together some classroom training pertaining to confined space emergencies. I'm gearing this more towards a "Recognizing & Identifying" permit required spaces. I'm hoping to begin w/ individual scenarios that one may not typically recognize as a permit required space (ie. lifting assistance requested by EMS in a utility vault, or an unresponsive patient in a crawlspace of a house). Something to teach the differences in a CS and a Permit-Required CS. Hoping to gear this towards individual company responses, where dispatch info may not include "CS emergency". My objective of the training is to prepare the individual company to recognize what may actually be a permit required CS entry, and initiate a technical rescue response. Also, I'd like to have these units begin life saving measures while awaiting the arrival of tech rescue personnel (ie. ventilation & monitoring, non-entry rescue, lockout tagout)
I'd like to hear feedback regarding this. There may be ppt material already out there someone would share. If not, shoot me your thoughts.
-Any creative scenarios that may not present themselves as a permit required space?
-Any creative non-entry rescue techniques
-Any real life scenarios that you've encountered?
Just help me think outside of the box!
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12-06-2011, 03:24 PM #1
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Individual Company Functions @ Confined Space Incidents
12-07-2011, 07:51 PM #2
I applaud this effort. Many REGOPS companies would not think twice about entering an area, never knowing that confined spaces have inherit dangers associated.
First, most Permit Spaces will be so labeled, and should be manned by an attendant on the outside, and under the supervision of a competent person; all of what would be an immediate indicator of a Permit Space.
Regular old confined spaces will be a little more difficult to recognize to the untrained eye (not all are manholes!). I think this is where your class should become interesting. Start off with the OSHA definitions of both a Confined Space and a Permit Space.
Love to B.S. about it more, but don't have the time.~Drew
USAR TF Rescue Specialist
12-14-2011, 11:21 PM #3
Being intrigued by the prospect, the Captain asked him if he would show him this new contraption. The Fire Chief brought back from the bay... a 10ft pike pole.
I wouldn't personally advocate such techniques in your teachings.
12-17-2011, 09:35 AM #4
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12-27-2011, 11:33 PM #5Co 11
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