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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    My former department didn't allow applicants to apply if they had felony convictions. And they were immediately fired if they had been convicted of a felony.
    Neither does my volunteer department. Nor any in the area.

    and by the way....he has no felony convictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Neither does my volunteer department. Nor any in the area.

    and by the way....he has no felony convictions.
    The show connects him to moonshining. Not a good representation for the fire service since as of now, moonshining is an illegal activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    The show connects him to moonshining. Not a good representation for the fire service since as of now, moonshining is an illegal activity.
    It is a way of life for some folks, which has been doing that for centuries.

    That is their only income, unless you want them to be dependent on the Government!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    It is a way of life for some folks, which has been doing that for centuries.
    So what? Raising coca leaves for cocaine production is a way of life for indigenous persons in South America. Raising poppies for heroin production is a way of life in Afghanistan for heroin is a way of life as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    That is their only income, unless you want them to be dependent on the Government!
    Are those the only choices? There is no way for them to go to school and learn a respectable trade?

    Please continue the rationalizations while this group of volunteers continues to make a mockery of the fire service.
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    he was in the army and was a mechanic, therefore he has a trade but chooses not to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6Duron1 View Post
    he was in the army and was a mechanic, therefore he has a trade but chooses not to use it.
    Meaning what exactly? Do you justify his involvement in moonshining because he chooses to not be a mechanic?

    Either way, he is associating his firefighter involvement with his partaking in moonshining.

    Not a good image for the fire service.
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    I don't think it justifies it, illegal is illegal for a reason. Mechanics make a large amount of money and I don't see why he isn't doing that for a living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Please continue the rationalizations while this group of volunteers continues to make a mockery of the fire service.
    What group of volunteers is making a mockery of the fire service?


    There is a fictional show on TV that advertises as "real life". The actors in the show have lives outside their "acting" gig. One of them also happens to be a volunteer firefighter in his community.

    Oh wait...do you believe the show is true?


    You do realize Backdraft (with the paid FF arsonist) was fake also...don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    What group of volunteers is making a mockery of the fire service?


    There is a fictional show on TV that advertises as "real life". The actors in the show have lives outside their "acting" gig. One of them also happens to be a volunteer firefighter in his community.

    Oh wait...do you believe the show is true?


    You do realize Backdraft (with the paid FF arsonist) was fake also...don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    What group of volunteers is making a mockery of the fire service?
    Any that might involved in moonshining.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    There is a fictional show on TV that advertises as "real life". The actors in the show have lives outside their "acting" gig. One of them also happens to be a volunteer firefighter in his community.

    Oh wait...do you believe the show is true?
    Couldn't tell you since I've never seen it. I'll let you tell us.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    You do realize Backdraft (with the paid FF arsonist) was fake also...don't you?
    I also realize that people have a different perspective on real life people being filmed being involved in an illegal activity (that claims to have insight into the activity) and a movie that completely based on a fictional story.

    Do you know the difference. This question makes me wonder about your perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    What group of volunteers is making a mockery of the fire service?


    There is a fictional show on TV that advertises as "real life". The actors in the show have lives outside their "acting" gig. One of them also happens to be a volunteer firefighter in his community.

    Oh wait...do you believe the show is true?


    You do realize Backdraft (with the paid FF arsonist) was fake also...don't you?
    If it was a show about serial arsonists (real or not), I'd have a problem with him representing himself as a real firefighter during a show that represents itself as real....

    Just caught the promo, haven't seen the actual show. However, it made it real clear that it was moonshiners breaking the law and the law trying to catch them.
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    It appears the volunteer in question is re-enacting his exploits from years ago. He was a moonshiner by admission 5 years ago.

    http://starcasm.net/archives/136296

    SC's point about he wouldnt be allowed to be an employee on his department holds true for our department as well. If he was doing felony level crime 5 years ago, is now re-enacting it on tv and is making a connection between that and our department there is no way he would continue to be a member.

    SC's generalization about all volunteers is way off though. Because this guy does this, all volunteers are unprofessional? Do you make the same generalizations about race?
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    Watched 2 episodes last night while doing paperwork. He did stop by the firehouse during one to return bolt cutters he borrowed.

    Apparently, according to what the show stated about stock car racing getting it's "roots" from Moonshiners....NASCAR is guiilty of promoting illegal activities as well.


    Couldn't tell you since I've never seen it.
    Certainly explains your view then...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Apparently, according to what the show stated about stock car racing getting it's "roots" from Moonshiners....NASCAR is guiilty of promoting illegal activities as well.
    Don't really care what NASCAR does or doesn't promote. It isn't tasked with providing public safety and trust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Don't really care what NASCAR does or doesn't promote. It isn't tasked with providing public safety and trust.
    Is there anything in your area that isn't illegal?

    Would you be happier if he ran a topless club?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Is there anything in your area that isn't illegal?
    There are a lot things that aren't illegal where I live. I'm going to go out on a limb and state that is more the norm everywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Would you be happier if he ran a topless club?
    Is that an illegal activity? What is your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    I was surprised just how many of those Discovery shows are re-enacted or completely fake. Dual Survival, for example. While it was obvious by the fact that the camera crew was present that things weren't as bad as portrayed, I still thought much of the situation was accurate (location, conditions, etc). Turns out much of it is staged and acted. Case in point the episode where they were in the "North Woods" of Maine yet walk the 2 miles to the coast. Turns out it was filmed at a couple state parks.
    The fire episode was actually filmed on Camp Minden, which we serve as the fire department for.

    During the filming the "stars" and the crew was escorted by several fire personnel and always had a way out should things have gone south.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6Duron1 View Post
    he was in the army and was a mechanic, therefore he has a trade but chooses not to use it.
    According to the show, he is employed full-time as a mechanic.
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    It makes no difference, it don't make any difference to me what a man does for a living, you understand. But your business is a little dangerous.
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