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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    In your original post you talked about China buying the two dozen trucks, why would they copy when they are buying?

    Hilarious.
    You didn't expect them to build 24 trucks from scratch each time did you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    More than enough have hammered on the "If they wanted it secret, you would not have seen it, or been able to take pictures of it".

    What I found espically laughable about your post though, was the part about China copying things. In your original post you talked about China buying the two dozen trucks, why would they copy when they are buying?

    Hilarious.
    How about I just don't feel like it? Especially with the comments you and a few others have made. My decision, don't like it, tough.

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    Hey John, how long have you worked for Pierce???

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    Quote Originally Posted by blsfeich View Post
    Hey John, how long have you worked for Pierce???
    You say that like it's a bad thing. My life can depend on that truck, it's nice not to have that worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    How about I just don't feel like it? Especially with the comments you and a few others have made. My decision, don't like it, tough.
    That's up to you cupcake. You come on here bragging like a sales rep - and many simply try to explain that your reasons you posted for not posting pictures are misguided. Then you start to try to defend them, which was just as lame.

    You can post them or not - I could care less. Just don't assume everyone on here is going to believe utter BS. You are so proud of what you saw (like a good salesman should be) that normally people figure you would post pictures. Perhaps your post was just total BS, and you are afraid of being called a liar, so you don't want to post them, I don't know, nor do I really care.

    Have a great day Cupcake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    You say that like it's a bad thing. My life can depend on that truck, it's nice not to have that worry.
    Wow. That was easy. You DO work for Finley! Amazing what can be found out with a phone call.

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    FWIIW - I am not now nor have I ever been an employee of Pierce or any of their affiliates.

    I am a fire apparatus photographer.

    I take photos of fire apparatus.

    These are some I took at the Pierce Plant in Appleton.

    The white vehicles went to the ATF!

    The desert tan went to Kuwait.

    There were no secrets with these. Having said that they did have in production some vehicles that were, and were kept out of site of the customers, which were secret!

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    Stay Safe and Well Out There....

    Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    You say that like it's a bad thing. My life can depend on that truck, it's nice not to have that worry.
    Don't tell my parents I work for Pierce. They still think I play a piano in a whore house.
    "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Don't tell my parents I work for Pierce. They still think I play a piano in a whore house.
    I would have never guessed you play the piano.

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    The desert tan ones are amazing looking

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    is Johnsb an explorer? He sounds like a 13 year old talking about why he won't post pictures of the plant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    is Johnsb an explorer? He sounds like a 13 year old talking about why he won't post pictures of the plant.
    Cupcake is an employee of Finley Fire Equipment - who is - I know it is hard to believe - a Pierce dealer. A big dealer. Looks like they really have their act together, 3 locations, mobile service, very nice.

    My explorers would have done a much better job than he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    The desert tan ones are amazing looking
    They were built well. IIRC this was a big order, but can't remember the number. Many!!
    Stay Safe and Well Out There....

    Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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    Looks like John must be a new sales guy for Finley. He doesn't even have a picture on the website yet.
    Any " secret" truck is not built on the main floor. The ones Pierce REALLY wants to hide are built across the street from the main plant. The doors are usually locked and you have to be escorted in if you do not work in that building.
    As far as the employees on the floor having their pictures taken they are free to move out of the photo if they don't like it. Only a very few give a rat's furry behind one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Wow. That was easy. You DO work for Finley! Amazing what can be found out with a phone call.
    First thing, You don't know what the h@ll you're talking about. Whomever you talked to on the "phone" doesn't either. I have never worked for ANY manufacturer of ANY type of fire apparatus, or equipment for that matter. If anyone is lying it's YOU. What I stated in the original post is my OPINION. My VFD bought a truck and that's my experience with the pre-build. Yes we bought the truck through Findley. We have 2 other Pierce's and I have pride in those trucks with no regard for what anybody else thinks.
    I have been to the Sutphen plant as well, and although they have made improvements to their facilities and quality of their trucks, I was not as near as impressed. We just recieved a Sutphen at my career station, and the number of defects and repairs it's had in the FIRST MONTH back my opinion.
    If you think anything I've said is BS, prove it. You don't know me, I don't know you, so if you don't like my statements then don't bother to jump into one of my posts. I have no reason to impress you and don't give a damn if you are or not. I won't post pics of somebodies facilities without permission just because everybody else is doing it, and that's they way it's going to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    First thing, You don't know what the h@ll you're talking about. Whomever you talked to on the "phone" doesn't either. I have never worked for ANY manufacturer of ANY type of fire apparatus, or equipment for that matter. If anyone is lying it's YOU. What I stated in the original post is my OPINION. My VFD bought a truck and that's my experience with the pre-build. Yes we bought the truck through Findley. We have 2 other Pierce's and I have pride in those trucks with no regard for what anybody else thinks.
    I have been to the Sutphen plant as well, and although they have made improvements to their facilities and quality of their trucks, I was not as near as impressed. We just recieved a Sutphen at my career station, and the number of defects and repairs it's had in the FIRST MONTH back my opinion.
    If you think anything I've said is BS, prove it. You don't know me, I don't know you, so if you don't like my statements then don't bother to jump into one of my posts. I have no reason to impress you and don't give a damn if you are or not. I won't post pics of somebodies facilities without permission just because everybody else is doing it, and that's they way it's going to be.

    John then proceeds to cross his arms, stomp his feet and holds his breath until he passes out!

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    My suggestion: WATCH Rosie carefully,won't be long before they overtake Pierce in #s if they haven't already.
    Last edited by Rescue101; 01-26-2012 at 06:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    If you think anything I've said is BS, prove it. You don't know me, I don't know you, so if you don't like my statements then don't bother to jump into one of my posts. I have no reason to impress you and don't give a damn if you are or not. I won't post pics of somebodies facilities without permission just because everybody else is doing it, and that's they way it's going to be.
    No problem there Cupcake. But insofar as jumping into one of your posts? If you post it here, it is a public post, sitting there asking for comments. Good, bad, or indifferent. Nature of a forum. You want to post stupid things, expect someone to comment. You want to post a doctorial thesis, expect someone to comment on it. It is a forum.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum

    is a good link about forums for you.

    Have a great day sunshine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    My suggestion: WATCH Rosie carefully,won't be long before they overtake Pierce in #s if they haven't already.
    You are probably right. They are turning out lots of product. My preference runs towards other manufacturers, but you can't ignore Rosie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    First thing, You don't know what the h@ll you're talking about. Whomever you talked to on the "phone" doesn't either. I have never worked for ANY manufacturer of ANY type of fire apparatus, or equipment for that matter.
    Oh, and Cupcake? I never said you work for pierce. Never. Never said you work for a manufacturer. Don't twist my words.

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