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    No word on the next PAT, but all abstracts were due yesterday, and fingerprinting and physicals are happening next week and the following weeks.

    Class tentatively starts Jan 13, 2014

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    Anybody have an idea of how many candidates they will be taking in for the training class?

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    Just signed my Offer letter today. HR rep said they are trying to get about 23-25 recruits in the class. Next step is to go buy uniforms, and go to the Orientation on 11-Jan-2014, then class starts on 13-Jan-2014.

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    Aloha guys,

    I'm considering taking the next upcoming written exam that the HFD will conduct. Had a few questions for the guys in the HFD or currently in the recruitment class:

    - Is it highly suggested to take the Fire Science course at HCC?
    - Get EMT-B certified?


    Although I have read and heard that it is not necessary to have those certifications, I'm sure it would look great on my resume. But because I currently have a full-time job and have (2) young kids at home, I'm not sure if I'd want to tackle 2-years of college (if it's not necessary).

    At the least, I was planning to get EMT-B certified and do tons of prep-exam studying so I'll be mentally primed come exam time.

    Looking forward to all your advise and suggestions, Mahalo!

    - Joe

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    Hey Joe,
    The best advice I can give is to actually focus on your test preparation that literally does not require any fire science or EMT knowledge. The test focuses on reading comprehension and mathematical/logical principles. You have a handful of map reading and visual logic as well. The key is to be fast and accurate as after the last written test in July 2012, the initial cutoff score was 89 out of 100 (correct answers). You can find a few "prep tests" online and your hard earned money might be better spent initially on test preparation than HCC or EMT-B cert.

    From the written exam selection comes out "the list", every step after that is pass/fail so your recruitment ranking is based on the written test.

    The Fire Recruit position does not require the HCC course of EMT-B certification. For the panel interview, I would focus on how your life experiences (employment, volunteering, sports, family) have prepared you to enter this career.

    I hope this helps. Ask away if you have more questions,

    Arnaud
    I will be joining the 100th HFD Recruit class on 7/21/14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnaud Adam View Post
    Hey Joe,
    The best advice I can give is to actually focus on your test preparation that literally does not require any fire science or EMT knowledge. The test focuses on reading comprehension and mathematical/logical principles. You have a handful of map reading and visual logic as well. The key is to be fast and accurate as after the last written test in July 2012, the initial cutoff score was 89 out of 100 (correct answers). You can find a few "prep tests" online and your hard earned money might be better spent initially on test preparation than HCC or EMT-B cert.

    From the written exam selection comes out "the list", every step after that is pass/fail so your recruitment ranking is based on the written test.

    The Fire Recruit position does not require the HCC course of EMT-B certification. For the panel interview, I would focus on how your life experiences (employment, volunteering, sports, family) have prepared you to enter this career.

    I hope this helps. Ask away if you have more questions,

    Arnaud
    I will be joining the 100th HFD Recruit class on 7/21/14
    Thank you for the advice Arnaud!

    I just ordered "Norman Hall's Firefighter Exam Preparation Book". Is there any other prep-exam books that are relevant to the HFD exam(s)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhip View Post
    Aloha guys,

    I'm considering taking the next upcoming written exam that the HFD will conduct. Had a few questions for the guys in the HFD or currently in the recruitment class:

    - Is it highly suggested to take the Fire Science course at HCC?
    - Get EMT-B certified?


    Although I have read and heard that it is not necessary to have those certifications, I'm sure it would look great on my resume. But because I currently have a full-time job and have (2) young kids at home, I'm not sure if I'd want to tackle 2-years of college (if it's not necessary).

    At the least, I was planning to get EMT-B certified and do tons of prep-exam studying so I'll be mentally primed come exam time.

    Looking forward to all your advise and suggestions, Mahalo!

    - Joe
    Hey Joe,
    I wouldnt worry about getting EMT or taking a FS course. Most of the present recruit class doesn't have or hasn't had EMT-T or Fire Science courses under their belt.
    Focus on getting a high score on the test and a chance to sit in front of the interview panel. Have they released the next testing date yet? Last I heard they were going to try to take another 40 or so off the present list for another class starting at the beginning of the year.


    Quote Originally Posted by jhip View Post
    Is there any other prep-exam books that are relevant to the HFD exam(s)?
    Unless they do something drastically different for the next test, it should be 100 multiple choice questions that aren't fire specific. Norman Hall's is what a lot of people use. You should be good!

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    Howzit everyone,

    Have a quick question for those of you in the current recruit class; What has been the most challenging aspect in your training so far? (mental/physical?) And if you could go back before the start of it, what would you have done to better prepare yourself to meet those challenges you now face?

    Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Aloha!

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    Just an idea, if you can afford to take the test on the outer islands I would highly recommend doing so. I took the most recent Maui fire exam, which had many of same questions (word for word) as the last HFD test. The outer islands also seem to test more frequently than HFD. I believe I ended up waiting 4yrs for the last one to come around. Either way it wouldn't hurt getting in as much practice as you can. Study hard and good luck!

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    I believe the HFD personnel are trained to the first responder level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afakhori View Post
    Hey Joe,
    I wouldnt worry about getting EMT or taking a FS course. Most of the present recruit class doesn't have or hasn't had EMT-T or Fire Science courses under their belt.
    Focus on getting a high score on the test and a chance to sit in front of the interview panel. Have they released the next testing date yet? Last I heard they were going to try to take another 40 or so off the present list for another class starting at the beginning of the year.



    Unless they do something drastically different for the next test, it should be 100 multiple choice questions that aren't fire specific. Norman Hall's is what a lot of people use. You should be good!
    Thanks afakhori,

    The person from their employment hotline said the exam won't be till another year or two!

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    Hey all,

    Based on what I've read here and heard from others, there is a current recruit class that will be graduating fairly soon. I just want to know if anybody has an idea of what the HFD is doing next. Will there be another group called in for an agility test? Anybody know what the lowest score was for those that were hired for the 100th class? And what score they might use as the cutoff for the next batch of recruits?

    Thanks,
    Nash

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsouza View Post
    Hey all,

    Based on what I've read here and heard from others, there is a current recruit class that will be graduating fairly soon. I just want to know if anybody has an idea of what the HFD is doing next. Will there be another group called in for an agility test? Anybody know what the lowest score was for those that were hired for the 100th class? And what score they might use as the cutoff for the next batch of recruits?

    Thanks,
    Nash
    They did the second PAT in June and they took 86 and above for that. That class will start in April and the rumor is it will be the last class off this test. New test should be sometime this year.

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    Nash, you went aina haina elementary? Grad high school early 2000's?

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    Congratulations on graduating. Thanks for posting helpful comments.

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    Aloha kakou,

    I'm scheduled to be a part of the Honolulu Fire Department 101st recruit class. I was wondering if anybody else reading this forum is also. There are a few of us from seeing each other around during the recruit process trying to do some training together before class starts. Lifting, running, hiking, swimming, etc. Trying to do the bonding thing also. If you're interested in getting together, send me a private message with your contract info. I limited the restrictions on who can contact me. You shouldn't have to register to send me private message. If you don't hear from me within a day, then post a reply on the thread cuz I probably didn't receive it. I'll be monitoring this thread daily. As of right now there's 40 something of us in the 101st from what I heard.

    Shoots,
    dno
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    To everybody else monitoring the forum,

    There are others like me who checked the forum throughout the process but never posted anything. But I am grateful to afakhori & arnaud among others who kept us in the loop or gave advice. I feel like I should keep up the tradition.

    So far, they gave sound advice. Just take it step by step. Get ready for the written exam. That should be top priority. It's a national exam so most if not all prep books should help. I struggled with the math part. You need to know gears, lever class systems, pulleys, angles, mechanical advantage, calc, trig stuff, etc. Books that helped me are the ones that explain how problems are solved. Another key book is mechanical aptitude and spatial relations. Lots of good stuff.

    Practice reading comp also. Read random stuff you're not interested in. Random stuff you're not interested in will be on the exam. Faster you are at reading and UNDERSTANDING the better you will be.

    Also, practice test taking. The written will be on a Saturday. So every Saturday simulate a written exam. That way you get conditioned and in a routine so when Saturday rolls around your body knows it's exam time. There's even apps that simulate noise conditions during exams.

    If you're here it's a good thing. That means you're researching on your own. Keep researching about the job, career, recruiting process, anything about firefighting.

    Also, it's easy to prepare for stuff coming up. Written, physical, interview. What's not easy is erasing stuff from your record. Be a safe driver. Don't speed or drink and drive. Speeding tickets and dui's are not coming off your record. Remember, we are in this job to serve the community.

    Lastly, there's lots of good, hard working people out there. Keep trying. Took me a while to get there but I never gave up. I kept coming back for more. Some guys get in their first try, some guys like me who take test after test only to get shut down each time. DON'T GIVE UP. If you think you are serious about this career, make it your lifestyle. Change your lifestyle if you have to. Best decision I ever made. Be serious about everything involved with it. Physical fitness, studying, community involvement - it will prove it's worth throughout the recruiting process.

    Best advice I ever got from a firefighter. "We don't want dumbasses and half asses. Be serious and work hard."

    Hope that helps,
    dno

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