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    Okay, nuf said.

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    Something I would like to add, our training officer is a 30 year man and he is an expert at his field. Sure we might not have all the ideal training that one would expect, but our training officer chose us because he knew we would work our butts off to get knowledgeable in our craft. As a private industry, we do not have the luxury of the tax payers dollar to support our education, so we must support ourselves, rely on others experience and seek out knowledge in anyway we can...

    My training officer is the best, top notch, and I will defend that claim even if I have to alienate myself from this site.

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    Whoa. Don't go all defensive or let people (including me) get you torqued off over the internet.

    Do I believe that you and your team can run a safe evolution in Confined Space? Yes. I also feel that before a confined space class is taken, one should already have a firm understanding of the tools and equipment they are using. If the agency that taught the class did not have a basic class as a prerequisite, shame on them. A lot of the real basic questions that you ask would have been covered in prerequisite training.

    You didn't have the luxury of taking a general or rope class prior to ConSp. I understand and appreciate that. Go ahead and ask whatever you want, people here will gladly answer it. Your questions are branching further out from the training you have been given, and it highlights the point for having a training progression. Understand that many in the fire service have taken years to gather the training needed to operate a ConSp team. I count at least 280 hours (GR, Rope II, HAZMAT, ConSp, Machinery Rescue) of additional training per member above the fire and EMS training already taken to perform at a ConSp Tech level.

    When YOU become a training chief, remember the lack and desire of rope knowledge, think about how useful it would be to have that knowledge prior to a ConSp class, and establish a program to train YOUR people in a logical progression.
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    I am sorry, I did get a bit carried away and lost my composure, I apologize, and I do appreciate your input, and find it helpful. Gee, talk about your run on sentences

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    Thanks for the link Capt, I actually have the phone app for Animated knots by Grog, It is a pretty good app, and I recommend it.

    I just recently purchased a copy of the Ashley book of knots. With 4000 knots it is a good reference, but it is just pictures of the knots and does not explain how to tie them, but nice book to add to the library.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelXYZ View Post
    Okay, I think I found a use where my knot would be better. A rescue lanyard such as in this link example.
    http://en.skylotec.com/equi/verb/all...20FLEX%20V%201

    I changed the bowlines to Figure 8's, and my method is cheaper than the link I shown above. Image is below.

    What do ya think? I value your opinion

    Attachment 21980
    For the lanyard you show, I'd terminate the two outer arms at the carabiners with double overhand loops (fisherman knot loops?) rather than the figure-of-8 bight; you'll end up with a more compact and tidy unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue 2 Training View Post
    ...also known as the "gallows knot", probably because the multiple turn version of the knot was used in the wild west to hang outlaws from the gallows scaffolding...

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