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  1. 02-05-2012, 08:53 PM #1
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    Default NFPA and Helmets in the Cab

    What does everyone do with there helmets inside the cab. Now they don't want us to wear the helmet, so are you installing the helmet holding brackets??? Do you let your firefighters wear their helmet??? We are looking for advice or idea's on what other depatments are doing.
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    with new apparatus we are essentially "forced" by circumstance to have helmet holders. Older apparatus have the helmets just placed in the cab somewhere.
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    The holders don't have to be installed if your members are "required" to store their helmets in a compartment enroute to the call.

    The reason for the helmet holder rule is that cab ceiling height, seat height, and seatbelt placement were never done with the idea that that a FF would have the helmet on while responding. In the case of a rollover crash, there is a greater chance of a compression neck injury if the member is wearing their helmet.
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    To add, the "loose" helmet is also a hazardous flying object, hence the NFPA adding the requirement.

    Even before the NFPA stepped in, we installed secure tabbed hooks for the FF's to hang their helmets on. As for SOP/SOG, they have not been allowed to wear the helmets for close to a decade now.

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    You want the "legal" response or the real one?

    We have a cabinet door on the interior that is for helmet storage while the rig is in motion.

    Get in, sit down, place helmet on floor near your feet, SCBA straps on, seatbelt on. When get to scene, disconnect seatbelt and pickup helmet as you stand up and exit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    To add, the "loose" helmet is also a hazardous flying object, hence the NFPA adding the requirement.

    Even before the NFPA stepped in, we installed secure tabbed hooks for the FF's to hang their helmets on. As for SOP/SOG, they have not been allowed to wear the helmets for close to a decade now.

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    That's what we've done for years, although the new apparatus that's being delivered has the helment holders installed at the factory. You can also add a velcro strip or one of those nylon straps and buckles to keep them from swinging on the hooks. All together it wouldn't cost more than around 15 bucks to secure a helmet with a hook and strap. Much cheaper than those brackets that I believe are well over $100 apiece.
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    We use a compartment. Not perfect, but compliant and effective.
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    How about just hold them in your lap!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BULL321 View Post
    How about just hold them in your lap!
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    I guess I could, if there weren't so many other places to place it such as the floor or seat next to me.
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