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    if certified you still go thru their academy but u dont have to take the state exam. any word if the written exam going to be in the morning or night and how many their hiring

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    Whats the test like? I'm guessing it's going to be weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrambo View Post
    if certified you still go thru their academy but u dont have to take the state exam. any word if the written exam going to be in the morning or night and how many their hiring
    That summary states that 120 individuals will advance in the process once the ranking has been established. However, somewhere online I read they intend to hire 120. I imagine it's considerably less than 120 as they would have to anticipate losing people in the CPAT, background, etc.

    I've taken 2 tests with Austin (not the most recent one, however), and both were around 10a or noon as I recall. Basically, don't anticipate an evening test time.

    That's all I got.

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    Default Austin is DIFFERENT

    As you can see from the above posts, Austin has had problems in the past and they test different than most every other department in the nation. If you have done very well with other department tests, you are almost guaranteed to do poorly with Austin. Oakland and Berkeley, Ca are the only other departments I know of that have so many problems in their testing and use such an odd oral interview process.

    Years ago a protest was filed with the EEOC alleging that the physical agility was unfair to women, not because of the events but because of the times. Upon review the applicants protest was granted and the whole test was thrown out, they were already doing Chief’s interviews at the time. This caused an almost 18 month test and many applicants gave up. But those that stuck with it had less people to compete against and there had been a lot of retirements during that period, so they needed to hire a bunch once the list was promulgated.

    Last test they tested senior cadets, people with a number of years on with another department, I think two or four years. Then junior cadets, people with less than that amount of time with a department and people with no experience. Austin, being a progressive, alternative type of city had assembled a board of oral interviewers collected from a Salvation Army program to help recently homeless and just off welfare people to sit on the review boards. They had completed the senior cadet interviews, and were halfway through the juniors when someone posted on a newspaper website a copy of the test as well as the answers they were looking for. Imagine that, someone from that group sold the test.

    So they started the orals all over again. Thinking swiftly Austin realized it was summer and who better to have time on their hands and need money than teachers on summer break. They had the interviews at a school, also not being used because of it being summer. But they had used most of their testing money, so they paid the teachers half of what they had paid the former homeless.

    Austin is a different place. They had more Frisbee parks in town than any town in the U.S. There is more cultural diversity than anywhere in the mid-west. They make an attempt to reflect those things in their tests. If you think about it, if you were asked questions like, “Why do you want to be a firefighter?”, “What are the duties of a firefighter?”, “What have you done to prepare for the job of firefighter?”, you would answer differently if you were talking to a chief with 25-30 years on, than talking to someone from your mom’s bridge club.

    As a person who has prepared for tests with most other departments, you could hurt yourself by giving your usual answers. I talked to a guy during the last test that said, “I thought I nailed it, but when that person posted the answer key online, I realized I bombed”. You have to remember to answer based on who your audience is. A question like, “What are the drawbacks of being a firefighter?” would have a much different correct answer if give to a chief compared to a teacher. This is because it is a subjective question, it is as important how you answer as how you make the interview feel about you and you answer.
    Good Luck, Capt Rob
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    I applied and got my plane ticket to test. Very excited. Any idea how Austin feels about hiring people who already work for a career department? Did a ride-a-long down there last month and would love to work and live in Austin. Any information would be great.

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    Where are u flying in from nicky

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    I will be traveling from the central Virginia area.

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    hey Nicky, sent you a PM

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    Excited for the test. I was told that they were going to be running 89 people thru an academy from this Exam. It was from one of those mailing list phone calls I received from the Dept. Good Luck Guys

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    Anyone know how many applied and are expected to test?

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    Hey tony so they are looking to hire 89 from this test? That's great news Are u from out of town as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMuscleMan21 View Post
    Anyone know how many applied and are expected to test?
    On the website it said a little more than 4500 people applied

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbdream View Post
    On the website it said a little more than 4500 people applied
    So what your saying is it is going to be a zoo again like last test? Ok thanks lol

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    Lmao @ firemuscleman!!!!

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    Just looked and yep it said over 4500 ppl applied

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    4500.... wow. I applied for Ft.Worth last year and I think they had 3500, so this will be interesting.

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    Anyone else having trouble downloading study guide

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    I didn't, did u?

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    Don’t be scared by the large number of people applying. Some departments and some cities are as concerned about the make-up of the people working there as they are of the make-up of the people applying.

    Austin actively recruits in hopes of getting the most diverse group of applicants and, they hope, the most diverse group of employees.

    Think of the American Idol show. They will fill auditorium after auditorium across the nation, and only have a few that are actual contenders. This is no different, if they had increased the requirements to apply, or not advertised as well, the top two hundred people after the test would probably look just the same. The only difference is that years later you can say, “I beat out 4,500 people to get this job”.

    I work for a similar agency, I can say I beat out 5,000, but it really doesn’t mean that much, because most of those people never had a chance. They actually went into very under privileged areas and helped people fill out applications that couldn’t write and had felonies. It was unfair to those people, but their application profile was something the county was proud of.
    Good Luck, Capt Rob
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    Yeah That was what i was told from our conversation with an Austin F.F. Ill be flying out from Phx, Az. I tested last year and didn't so well. I had better results with San Antonio this year and it looks like there gonna use the same Company for the EXAM. it should be a time. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navymedic73 View Post
    Anyone else having trouble downloading study guide
    I had trouble downloading it with Chrome, but Firefox and IE seemed to work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyPhx View Post
    Yeah That was what i was told from our conversation with an Austin F.F. Ill be flying out from Phx, Az. I tested last year and didn't so well. I had better results with San Antonio this year and it looks like there gonna use the same Company for the EXAM. it should be a time. Good luck!
    Any particular reason why? If you're able to share...Thanks

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    I did better w/ San Antonio because I spent more time preparing for the exam. Everywhere I went so did my study guide. I bought the Captain Bob Study guide, used the provided Study Guide and had discussions with people that were smarter than me in my weak areas(grammar and punctuation). I gave my self enough time to be mentally prepared by getting into town a day earlier eating a good breakfast and I learned everything I could about the testing process.

    That's just my experience on what has helped my progress in the last four years of Testing. Its gonna happen for all of us eventually and that is why we are here. To make our selves more better prepared, smarter and surrounded by like minded individuals.

    Good luck on your test

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    So i am new to the forum, and will be testing with AFD this May. This is my first time at taking a civil service test and was hoping someone could shed some light on the AFD test. Is it like the study guide they allow you to download? What is the lowest score that usually makes the cut for interviews? I had a buddy test with AFD about 4 to 5 years ago and he "said" he scored an 84, but I dont think he ever got invited back to interview. Thank you in advance for the information and good luck.

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    Study the study guide. As for "lowest score", they are moving on the top 1500 into the oral board so there won't be an actual cutoff number set. If you score with the top 1500, you move on.

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