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Thread: Austin Fire Exam, May 23rd 2012

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    bad thing is you may have to wait till sept 30

    good thing is you may have to wait till sept 30, more people will drop out

    or wait till the contract is signed in a few weeks hopefully


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    maybe some insight from 2011




    By Patrick George

    AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF


    Today is the last day for Austin firefighters to vote on whether to approve an agreement between the city and the firefighters union on how the Austin Fire Department can hire cadets.

    If the members of the Austin Firefighters Association vote against the agreement, it could delay an ongoing hiring process even further — or lead to a cadet class being dissolved through a court order.

    Firefighters have been voting since Tuesday on an agreement worked out between union members and Chief Rhoda Mae Kerr. At issue is a yearlong dispute between the city and the union over the firefighter hiring process, and the city's attempts to attract more diverse candidates to the department.

    In August, an arbitrator ruled that the city violated its labor contract with the union in how it scored an entrance exam. City officials said a pass/fail ranking would be the better approach to increase diversity, but the union favored a numerical score, saying a pass/fail grade would lower the quality of the exam.

    The arbitrator's ruling caused the list of current firefighter candidates to be re-ranked, confusing many applicants and leading some to believe they were moving forward with the process when they were not.

    Bob Nicks, the president of the Austin Firefighters Association, said union officials met with Kerr and her staff to create an agreement on how the arbitrator's decision should affect future hiring processes. That agreement better defined the role of the cognitive portion of the entrance exam, he said.

    Nicks said he has recommended that members vote for the agreement. But if it is voted down, the union could seek a court order to stop the current hiring process.

    "It would create irreparable harm to the individuals in that class, and the class could be dissolved through a court order," Nicks said, adding that he hopes that won't be necessary.

    Division Chief Brian Tanzola, who is overseeing the hiring process, said department officials would like the current hiring phase to continue.

    "We're hopeful the vote passes, and we'd like to put this behind us and move forward with the hiring process," he said.

    Fire department officials are looking to hire about 80 firefighters from two lists of applicants. About 5,000 people have applied, Tanzola said.

    The department is processing the top 150 candidates from each list. A cadet academy class for people with previous firefighting experience is scheduled to start in late October, and one for novices is set to begin next spring.

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    more insight::

    appears to be from a few years ago


    http://aaaffa.org/ourstand.htm

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    Well boys, looks like there's the answer.
    The labor relations officer was quoted by KEYE saying, "Beginning October 1, we will operate under State Civil Service law."

    If that's an accurate quote, I don't see how it won't get scrapped...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel V View Post
    Well boys, looks like there's the answer.
    The labor relations officer was quoted by KEYE saying, "Beginning October 1, we will operate under State Civil Service law."

    If that's an accurate quote, I don't see how it won't get scrapped...

    Got 49 days to get a contact

    More than likely city management does not want to work without a contract

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    maybe a january class??

    http://malford.ci.austin.tx.us/depar...ent-applicants

    you do not want to start a class this year anyway::::

    Triskaidekaphobia, remember apollo 13???

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    Gotta be honest, if I had a chance to start a class on a Friday the 13 in 2013 and I was ranked 13th in a list of 113 and we were cadet class #113, I'd still take it in a heartbeat over this mess.

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    Anyone else starting to think they're gonna can this year's hiring process?

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    Not in the run

    They will get around to it, may be some hybrid thing

    Not the first time they had to think about it for awhile

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    Fire49 are you on with Dallas ?

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    Nope ......

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    I'm done trying to figure out what they'll do but I'm becoming more accepting of what feels like the inevitable.

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    I don't even check the web site much. I figured they will email when the results are posted.

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    2013 Austin Firefighter Applicants (08/26/13):

    AFD is continuing to review the exam results. The results and list of candidates invited to continue in the hiring process will be posted on this website as soon as the information is finalized. We appreciate your patience as we complete this part of the process.

    In the meantime, keep working on your physical fitness!

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    In the meantime, keep holding your breath!

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    *crickets*

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    be patient, they've almost figured out how to get all the women and minorities to the top of the list.

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    Stay calm. They've almost figured out how to get all the women and minorities to the top of the list

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    Be patient. They've just about got all the women and minorities moved to the top of the list, and it'll be out shortly

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    everyone be patient. theyve almost found a way to move the women and minorities to the top of the list, and then it will be posted.

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