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    I'm certain this topic has been discussed, but I think it's worth a refresher.
    I have been selected to be a training officer, and I'm excited to put some of my ideas to use. My question is, are there any training ideas you like to use or would like to? Both inside and outside. Looking for some interesting ideas, thinking outside the box a little. Thanks.

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    We follow what the state of Texas requires. We do change it up a bit. This last weekend we did RIT and Mayday training. Videos should be on youtube soon after I get chance viewing the videos and decide which ones to upload.
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    Big different buildings/ busineses and walk through them noting exterior doors , fire protection systems, chemicals, hazards, etc

    You learn the building, meet the people, etc

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    Getting our required "8 hour" OSHA refresher is always a challenge. Rather than take up regular training time, my department just hosted an all-day event with a variety of speakers. Folks from a dozen departments showed up.

    Next year, different speakers with different takes on the same topics.

    Besides getting the requirement out of the way in a less painful manner (like listening to moi for 8 hours...) the event gave firefighters an opportunity to network with others from around the county, including some they don't normally run into.

    Several departments around the county are holding similar events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    Getting our required "8 hour" OSHA refresher is always a challenge. Rather than take up regular training time, my department just hosted an all-day event with a variety of speakers. Folks from a dozen departments showed up.

    Next year, different speakers with different takes on the same topics.

    Besides getting the requirement out of the way in a less painful manner (like listening to moi for 8 hours...) the event gave firefighters an opportunity to network with others from around the county, including some they don't normally run into.

    Several departments around the county are holding similar events.
    For our OSHA refresher training we usually rely on the OFPC class offered in the Outreach training through the county. 3 training nights and its all done. It does use up 3 training nights but its a state certified course and you get the certificate to show compliance. We've recently revamped our training so it might not be necessary to do that this year. We should cover all the topics needed to comply with the recert.
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    First thing, make sure you know what REQUIRED training you need to do. Then figure in training that is specific to your dept. (YOUR apparatus, the types of fires and emergencies that you run on) Once you get those basics taken care of, you can go back and build on those training sessions and increase your level of training. Build a library of reasources as well, video, online, and articles, so individuals can research a topic if they have questions.

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    Start with the basics. Hose advancement, ladders, forcible entry, ventilation, search and rescue, PPE and SCBA donning.

    With some 2x4's and a half sheet of plywood you can make a restricted passage prop, with some fence posts and cones you can make a hose advancement course, or have the guys advance hose around the trucks in the bay, toss a pass alarm in the corner of the apparatus bay, shut off the lights and have the crew search for it in the dark...there are so many more ideas.
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    Our firefighter rescue training use used with just stuff found in our station. We got a 100 foot section of hose that isn't being used for anything and snaked it around the obstacle course. First they had to crawl the length of a ladder. Second they had to crawl under a table with loose rope looped around the table to simulate entanglement. Third they had to squeeze under two benches. Firefighters have to remove their SCBA to get under the benches. We intended to have two pallets set up as a triangle for them to crawl over or through. Our firefighter dummy is then rescued and taken back through the obstacle course.

    We record our hands on training with a camcorder and review later. I was going to put a video on youtube but I couldn't find one that was without errors. For most of our guys this was new training that they had never had before.

    So in summary, there is plenty of training to do inside your station.
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    keep it simple cut up some old cars do pump traning water battles are great training tanker suttles are nice and contact your local natural gas company and see if you can set up a propane tree training its a great thing to learn about.

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    If you're stuck for an idea for drill night, check out the training on Firehouse.com and at Firefighterclosecalls.com, to mention a couple. You won't be stuck long.
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    In addition to the above recommendations, you should check out http://www.fireservicebooks.com - they have a multitude of books, workbooks, DVDs, and other firefighter training materials that will give you some great ideas for both indoor and outdoor activities.

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    Maybe I am in the minority --our vfd drills a minimum of 3 drills a month and my biggest problem is what to prioritize. You can train all year and just scratch the surface on what you need.

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    First of all, congratulations on your appointment to training officer! That is a very important job and also a very tough job!

    As you can tell by some of the previous posts, make sure you are doing your required training first to maintain whatever certifications and affiliations your firefighters and department have.

    My recommendation would be to ask your people what they want to know more about, what they want practice on and what they would like to learn that they don't know. It is dangerous to ask a group of firefighters what they don't know to determine your training because none of them will ever tell you. Have some "basics" drills that everyone already knows like pulling line, SCBA donning, ladders, etc., but also look for opportunities when they come. We recently had an issue where our brush truck was buried in the mud on a call and it needed to be cleaned. So, we took that opportunity to park it in the parking lot, brought a pumper out and performed a pump ops class where we used the deck gun, crosslays, bumper line, and the booster line to wash off the brush truck. Another thing to do is, when you have a topic that you want to train on, find ways to make it fun for the group. There is nothing that drives volunteers away like a bunch of boring training. We recently had training on the spreader so we played Jgenga with the spreaders. Everyone was involved and wanted to play, and it gave them plenty of time on the spreaders so the next time they need to use them, they will be very familiar with them! Good luck!

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    A further thought - Plan your training, and let everyone know what's coming up.

    Nothing kills attendance more than not having a plan. People do show up (for a while), mill around while a decision is made on what to do, and figure they've got better things to do.

    That's not to say that you won't occasionally pick a loser of a topic (or instructor), but those are opportunities to learn, too.
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    1) Take a hard look at your responses. What are they? What kind of fires? What type of structures? What type of vehicles? EMs? Extrication? Technical rescue? Alarm Trips & Investigations?

    2) Take a hard look at the jobs your men perform at these incidents. In other words, perform a job analysis. What size hose? What type of lays and stretches? What water supply tasks? What types of forcible entry? Do you deal with alarm and sprinkler systems? Search challenges? Unusual extrication tasks?

    3) Determine what tasks you currently perform well and what tasks you do not perform well.

    4) base your training primarily on the tasks you do not perform well. Throw in some refresher training now and then and the stuff that you do well, but for the most part work on what you need to work on.
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    The one training I would throw in multiple times a year is working with 2 1/2 hoselines. Too many FDs never train with them and ear mark 2 1/2's for defensive only operations. Pull the line and practice moving it and not only standing up marching across the parking lot. Practice moving it interior for a larger building fire. The time to learn that is not when the building is on fire and you need a big line inside.

    Another good drill is ground deploying master streams. Both the new wav smaller ones and a full size deluge gun. Again the time to learn is not at a large fire.
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