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    Those pictures (top one in particular) bring up a question: Why are so many front suctions above the bumper requiring two 90 degree elbows right from the start? I'd think the cut in as is shown on the drivers side would be a much better solution, especially given the trouble had getting capacity through the front suction?

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    My guess, for NY's situation, is they use it more for hydrant connections than drafting. The swivel gives them a bit more flexibility and the loss from the bends is not enough to cause an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    My guess, for NY's situation, is they use it more for hydrant connections than drafting. The swivel gives them a bit more flexibility and the loss from the bends is not enough to cause an issue.
    Makes sense for many FD's with a decent pressurized water system and SOG's that require each engine grab it's own hydrant.

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    Yup, you'll notice that none of my engines have the swivel and extra bends.
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    The swivel basically allows you to spot the apparatus in more positions to connect to the hydrant without kinking the hose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    My guess, for NY's situation, is they use it more for hydrant connections than drafting. The swivel gives them a bit more flexibility and the loss from the bends is not enough to cause an issue.
    This.

    Been riding and buffing fires with FDNY for 25 years. Last time I saw FDNY drafting at a fire was.......well.........uhh..........hmmmmmmmm..... .Oh yeah now I remember it was Neverember 37th.
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    you mean you never buffed on a fireboat ??
    They can suck the hudson river dry. :-}

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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    Sounds like the mileage on some of our front line stuff.
    Sounds like the mileage on ALL of our front line stuff. Ugh.

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    Anybody know if that is a spotlight over the lightbar or a thermal imager? Is it related to the video screen in the back of the cab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    you mean you never buffed on a fireboat ??
    They can suck the hudson river dry. :-}
    As a matter of fact I have ridden with Marine 9 several times, somewheres I have a pic of me on the deck with the twin towers in the background. I know M9 was big but something tells me the pumps aren't THAT big.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    As a matter of fact I have ridden with Marine 9 several times, somewheres I have a pic of me on the deck with the twin towers in the background. I know M9 was big but something tells me the pumps aren't THAT big.....
    We had a FDNY fire boat here in Woodbridge Twp yesterday, feeding a 12" line neptune system ,going into a manifold which feed five 5" LDH lines, supplying over 3,000 gpm! That boat was amazing !

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    Anybody know if that is a spotlight over the lightbar or a thermal imager? Is it related to the video screen in the back of the cab?
    Spotlight and the rear screen is tied into the MDT.
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    seems to me I remember reading the newest fire boats have up to 50,000 gpm capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    We had a FDNY fire boat here in Woodbridge Twp yesterday, feeding a 12" line neptune system ,going into a manifold which feed five 5" LDH lines, supplying over 3,000 gpm! That boat was amazing !
    so tell us more about the Neptune system that was used.

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    Neptune System is a NJ State resource that can be requested. Large amount of 12" hose with a bunch of manifolds. Neptune is just the name they gave it. Can be requested when needing to move large amounts of water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Neptune System is a NJ State resource that can be requested. Large amount of 12" hose with a bunch of manifolds. Neptune is just the name they gave it. Can be requested when needing to move large amounts of water.
    Bones, do you think that system was developed a result of the 1975 Trenton Relay(s)?

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    The first thing they tryed was the tanker task force, but that was still not the water volume that was needed to fight this massive fire, so the Middlesex County mutial aid, called for the FDNY fire boat. The Neptune system came on a single axle flat bed truck with 3 large reels with a blue 12" LDH and a manifold system that can handle up to five 5" LDH lines plus 3" lines. I would think that this setup is use mostly on chemical or tank farm type of fire which would be close to a dock or bulkhead for a fire boat to supply the system!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumper Guy View Post
    I really think people should get their facts straight before going off about something they don't have the slightest clue about!!!

    People's lives must be that boring that they feel the need to come on forums and spread NOT CORRECT information and speculation. I am sure no matter who gets the FDNY contract that that respective builder will issue a FACTUAL press release containing all the details of the bid award.
    I just thought it would be fun to mention that this guy was wrong and FWD was in fact correct on his original information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    I just thought it would be fun to mention that this guy was wrong and FWD was in fact correct on his original information.
    Poor guy. He seemed a little up tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefengineer11 View Post
    Bones, do you think that system was developed a result of the 1975 Trenton Relay(s)?
    No, that would make too much sense.

    I truly believe it was developed cuz someone had to justify funds and positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    The first thing they tryed was the tanker task force, but that was still not the water volume that was needed to fight this massive fire, so the Middlesex County mutial aid, called for the FDNY fire boat. The Neptune system came on a single axle flat bed truck with 3 large reels with a blue 12" LDH and a manifold system that can handle up to five 5" LDH lines plus 3" lines. I would think that this setup is use mostly on chemical or tank farm type of fire which would be close to a dock or bulkhead for a fire boat to supply the system!
    That's the biggest drawback of the system....finding something that can supply it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumper Guy View Post
    I have ZERO affliation with the FDNY or any manufacturer for your information. However now I will follow this matter to see who wins the bid and what the true facts are. Then I will come back here and see what all the "know it alls" have to say.
    Dammit Memphis, see what you've gone and done..........All I hear is crickets....................
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    The Neptune system came to the fire scene from Union County, New Jersey but I do not know if a portable pump on a trailer is available to supply the 12" LDH line?

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    "Zero affiliation!!!"

    Only 8 posts and all in this thread. Who woulda thunk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firepundit View Post
    "Zero affiliation!!!"

    Only 8 posts and all in this thread. Who woulda thunk?
    I have a sneaking suspicion I know who it was/is.....And he is indeed affiliated with one of the three mentioned manufacturers as a sales rep....I wont mention any names but it was not the winning bidder......
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