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    Pictures of the FDNY cab and a body at the KME plant recently

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    A little birdy sent photo's of FDNY engine 56 at the KME plant!
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    Same truck for the most part with a different name on the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctxffman View Post
    Same truck for the most part with a different name on the nose.
    Why wouldn't it be? If that spec works for them why would they change it with a different manufacturer?
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    Is it just the picture , or is the truck sagged out in the rear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by probable View Post
    Is it just the picture , or is the truck sagged out in the rear?
    Dude, seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Dude, seriously?
    What's that for? It does appear to be sitting lower in the rear than the front, without hose and water on it. Could be the suspension selection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    What's that for? It does appear to be sitting lower in the rear than the front, without hose and water on it. Could be the suspension selection.
    I completely disagree. If anything you are getting spatial distortion caused by the angle of the photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    What's that for? It does appear to be sitting lower in the rear than the front, without hose and water on it. Could be the suspension selection.
    I agree. It looks lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    I completely disagree. If anything you are getting spatial distortion caused by the angle of the photo.
    1. As someone who's shot posed and unposed photos for virtually all of the major manufacturers, I know a thing or two about depth of field, distortion, and lens selection, and appearance of static vehicles in photos. That's not the case in this photo.

    2. The next two pumpers we receive at work will be higher in the front than the rear (slightly) due to the suspension and axle options we chose. It's not unheard of.
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    Default Few more pictures from the birdy!

    Maybe the rubber fender flares make the truck look like it's sitting lower ?
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    Sorry, I am not seeing it. I agree that the BLACK rear wheel flares may give the illusion that the rear body is lower.

    Further look at the driver's side view and the space in the front end between the tire and the body then look at the officer side view and the same gap. Is the truck sagging to the officer's side too?
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    It was a simple question, I have seen brand new trucks that were lower in the rear from the start. "DUDE"

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    Quote Originally Posted by probable View Post
    It was a simple question, I have seen brand new trucks that were lower in the rear from the start. "DUDE"
    And as I have said, repeatedly, I just don't see it.

    Somebody needs to go to the factory and measure it is the only way to end this.
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    Completely different topic.... I will admit that I don't know a thing about where this truck is going in NYC, but hard suction on an FDNY rig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfelix22000us View Post
    Completely different topic.... I will admit that I don't know a thing about where this truck is going in NYC, but hard suction on an FDNY rig?
    Done to allow the pumpers to have ready access to the many bodies of water surrounding the City in the case of a catastrophic event.
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    They also use the front connection to keep street space open.
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    If this is the first engine built for the FDNY, the city of New York, can make changes before the next 89 pumpers to be built by KME. This unit maybe a " DEMO " for the city to test!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    If this is the first engine built for the FDNY, the city of New York, can make changes before the next 89 pumpers to be built by KME. This unit maybe a " DEMO " for the city to test!
    All units as this one will be built as specified. There are no provisions within their specs or the manufacturer's bid proposal for changes mid-stream. This unit will be assigned to the CTS (Chauffer Training School.) 56 is a disbanded company (Upper Manhattan) however I understand it to be Honorary Asst Chief Jack Lerch's badge number and this was done out of honor and respect to him- which makes sense as he has a huge part in keeping FDNY's official apparatus history data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    Done to allow the pumpers to have ready access to the many bodies of water surrounding the City in the case of a catastrophic event.
    If you look at pictures at the trucks in the boroughs with access to water such as Queens and parts of Brooklyn, they do currently carry 4 sections of hard suction.

    The engines that typically don't have that access carry 2, and sometimes 3 lengths.
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