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    Quote Originally Posted by ZMastr28 View Post
    Ferrara buys their cabs from TCM out of Cincinnati. Ferrara then paints it, wires it, etc. While I like the layout of the Ferrara cabs, I think they lack quality. TCM no longer supplies Spartan or HME with cabs for a reason.
    Ok, so its clear to me........Ferrara does NOT build their own cabs? They only trim cabs built by TCM for the Ultra, Inferno and Igniter? But the other two are rebadged HME's, correct?


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    I think the only exception could be what they're building for FDNY, which I assume are stainless. I think the Ember and Intruder are the HME's with Ferrara badges (and grilles in the case of the Ember).

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    The Ultra cab is also made by TCM. Ferrara does not make any of their cabs.

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    Since we are on who makes cabs. Let’s see with a list of who makes their own or has them subbed out. If it is different then what I have post it and Ill update this list.

    America LaFrance:
    Eagle - Them self
    Metropolitan - Them self

    KME:
    Predator - Them self
    Panther - Them self
    Severe Service - Them Self

    Seagrave:
    Marauder II - Them self

    Spartan:
    Force - Marion
    Metro Star - Marion
    Metro Star RT - Marion
    Gladiator - Marion

    HME:
    1871-vc - Marion
    1871-W - Marion
    1871-SFO - Marion
    Spectr - Marion

    Rosenbauer(Their own not re-badge Spartan):
    Commander - Them self or Marion

    Ferrara:
    Inferno - TCM
    Igniter - TCM
    Ultra - TCM
    Ember(HME) - TCM or Marion
    Intruder(HME) TCM or Marion

    E-One:
    Cyclone II - Them self
    Typhoon - Them self
    Quest - Them self

    Sutphen:
    Ambassador - Them self
    Monarch - Them self

    Pierce:
    Dash CF - Them self
    Quantum - Them self
    Velocity - Them self
    Impel - Them self
    Arrow XT - Them self
    Saber - Them self
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    I was also under the impression that E-One built all of their own cabs, until I saw this photo, which looks suspiciously like an E-One Typhoon to me.

    As far as I know, all of Sutphen's cabs are TCM.
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    While at the E-One factory, I saw them building their own cabs for the 3 lines mentioned above. I have pictures too....but won't post them as I don't want to show super secrets....
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    TOWER412: I was told at Rosenbauer's recent event at the Texas Motor Speedway that Marion did build the cab shell for their new Commander cab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    I was also under the impression that E-One built all of their own cabs, until I saw this photo, which looks suspiciously like an E-One Typhoon to me.

    As far as I know, all of Sutphen's cabs are TCM.
    Saw the same pic. I believe you're right... Looks exactly like a Typhoon.
    I can't believe they actually pay me to do this!!!

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    Box 187-

    All of Sutphen's cabs are made at their Hilliard facility. It has been several years since TCM made them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeadOff View Post
    TOWER412: I was told at Rosenbauer's recent event at the Texas Motor Speedway that Marion did build the cab shell for their new Commander cab.
    That is correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by sven73 View Post
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    All of Sutphen's cabs are made at their Hilliard facility. It has been several years since TCM made them.
    Very good, thanks for the correction.
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    [QUOTE=BoxAlarm187;1321710]I was also under the impression that E-One built all of their own cabs, until I saw this photo, which looks suspiciously like an E-One Typhoon to me.

    When E-One goofed by discontinuing all of their cab styles in 1996 when they revamped to the Cyclone II, this left them without an entry level/mid-range custom. The "American Eagle" custom quickly appeared and hung around until 2000. Aesthetically, it was the same cab shell as the previous Cyclone/Protector TC. I never did confirm, but I believe that E-One had already pulled that design from their line, so they had TCM build it for them, just to get a cheap custom back out there.

    TCM did build the original Sutphen Shield design, but it now has the same cab shell as the high end Monarch, which are both built in-house.

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    my rig was in service for a solid 15 hours before we lost the brakes, a whole two and a half days before the brake line (that they ran over the top of the telma retarder) MELTED Away... Turning on the AC activates the warning lights... Thats the SHORT list... going to be a long haul...

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    Quote Originally Posted by npfd801 View Post
    I think the only exception could be what they're building for FDNY, which I assume are stainless. I think the Ember and Intruder are the HME's with Ferrara badges (and grilles in the case of the Ember).

    Going to be in Indy Rob?
    Thanks for the info guys. I'm learning a lot on here, but of course I usually do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by npfd801 View Post
    I think the only exception could be what they're building for FDNY, which I assume are stainless. I think the Ember and Intruder are the HME's with Ferrara badges (and grilles in the case of the Ember).

    Going to be in Indy Rob?
    Thanks for the info guys. I'm learning a lot on here, but of course I usually do.

    Yes Joel, I will be there. See you then?

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    I'll try to find you. I assume you'll be working the booth for whom you're now selling for?
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    Yes sir. Look forward to seeing you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfTL41 View Post
    my rig was in service for a solid 15 hours before we lost the brakes, a whole two and a half days before the brake line (that they ran over the top of the telma retarder) MELTED Away... Turning on the AC activates the warning lights... Thats the SHORT list... going to be a long haul...
    Wow, that long? 4 Truck switched over to the new piece, backed into quarters, had a run 20 mins later and it wouldnt start!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Wow, that long? 4 Truck switched over to the new piece, backed into quarters, had a run 20 mins later and it wouldnt start!
    No sh^t.... Got a brand new HME delivered a few years ago. In less than an hour to bring it inside the shop, it wouldn't start. The alternator was the culprit.

    Funny part is, the dumbass that delivered it, saw the alternator light on, and thought nothing of it a couple hours before he got here.

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    Question FDNY Pumper Bids

    Any word yet on who got the award to build 90 engines for the F.D.N.Y., I have seen news that Ferrara, will build (13) more 100ft aerials at a cost of 13 million dollars. It looks like Seagrave needs to get there truck pricing in line with all the other builders. If the new Ferrara chassis aerials fall a part in the next few years it maybe the last contract for them from FDNY ?

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