Does Ferrara handle FDNY direct or through one of their dealers close to the city?
Did the little birdie say anything about KME being awarded a contract for 90 pumpers? Seems to be the word in another forum close the city.
Added Note: It's been a while, I'd forgotten that was the original word, not sure why it's coming back around unless an official release is due tomorrow?
American lafrance was killed by there current owner, or stock holders ! Seagrave is not dead and will live without a pumper bid from New York City. Will Ferrara, die off after the contract ends for the 100ft aerials they are building for the FDNY ?
No, alf died when they left elmira, never to come back from its former glory largely due to the ny issues. Seagrave? hurt dealing with issues with ny. Ward 79? same. Ward lafrance after the orders from the 60s? same. Mack? the main product lines and size of company kept them going but decided the fire market, even with fdny was not enough to keep their machine fed (of course emissions regulation changes didnt help). NY is a tough one for any manufacturer to handle? The smaller or regional manufacturers? Saulsbury? only did the rescues and specialty vehicles. While typically better able to offer the customization required, they cant handle the warranty headaches and know better than to get involved. The "prestige" of being in NY often aint worth the headaches being there causes them.
The warranty used to read and I am guessing still does read excluding normal wear items: light bulbs, hoses, tires and the like. FDNY would send Saulsbury a warranty claim for a lightbar not working. The field service rep (me) would stop by Rescue # (whatever number) to check the lightbar. The lightbar would be working fine, the problem would be the bulbs were bad or had vibrated out. The problem would be repaired and it would be a billable item. The difficulty was either the bill was just swallowed by Saulsbury or FDNY never paid the bill. I am sure the latter was more of the case.
Just like any apparatus KME you can swear at or swear by them. I lost a bid to them and it still stings not because the salseman was or is shady, but because the customer wasn't honest with me on their budget and with our dealings.
I think KME will loose their shirts on warranty.
I have seen news that Seagrave Fire Apparatus has won the bid award for "squads" anyone know how many are to be built, and what was the price tag?
Anytime I have talked to a fire apparatus sales rep about purchasing a truck. he would ask me what kind of budget do you have to work with .Then they offer such & such type of chassis cab, motor, body, pump, etc. to match your capital budget! They are not going to bid $ 500,000 on a truck when your departments budget is only $ 400,000.
Interesting. We tend to send out specs for what options we want, what features, etc. We get some initial prices from the interested manufacturers and then we go to the Town for a budget to work with. Then we meet with manufacturers to see what they can actually offer and come up with a final set of specs. They aren't written by manufacturers.