Dream it and Someone will build it - Type of thinking!! Another Momument!!
LOL to FD1976!! A 236" wheelbase ambulance!!! Ya can't even make some of this stuff up!! Proves once again, manufacturers must really need business and never want to say no! I hope the link was not confused with FDNY, as I have prints from the old rigs built by Ferrara at around 185” wheelbases and I hear the KME’s will be almost identical.
It never ceases to amaze me what kind of money gets spent on some WILDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD stuff - even by departments with huge budgets!! Seems as though the continued spending of taxpayer’s money is easy when there is no accountability. Some rigs break all boundaries of common sense, sound engineering, nor limit on the American Express Black Card!! Oh wait – one last thing - there is the option to buy the parachute to exit the hosbed safely!!
I think what amazes me even more is the amount of money spent in places where run volumes are EXTREMELY low. I see pumpers on here being bought by departments running 100-200-300 calls TOTAL annually - when they have 6-7-8-even 10 structure fires a year!! They use foam once or twice a year, but bought a $25,000 foam system and what the hell, let's throw in that "standard and free" independent front suspension!! LOL!! These departments I see spending $500-$600-$700,000 for a rocket ship CUSTOM pumper, when a $300,000 model would do all they REALLY need for those 5-10 REAL structure fires a year - IF we put away the testosterone, 10' tall & bullet proof posturing and Maltese gorilla attitude, we might realize that there is a lot of money being wasted!!! What the heck, I guess times are not as bad as everyone tries to say everywhere - but budgets in my area are getting tighter and tighter.
I think the FDNY bid is an example of the times though. We must be responsible in bidding units in a competitive scenario. Surely FDNY likes their Seagraves and it would be very "comfortable", “easy” and “nice” to buy more - BUT - today, everyone MUST be fiscally responsible as buyers and even suppliers. FDNY CANNOT justify the HUGE disparity in costing to a Seagrave or even a Ferarra at $100,000 a copy over the KME bid. Actually - how can Seagrave be upset??
Seagrave prices are OUT OF CONTROL - not only in FDNY, but across the country from what I've seen from friends in other departments, with the normally $75-$100,000 more on any unit!! I would HATE to Seagrave go away in entirety, it would be a terrible shame. They are a huge part of fire truck history!! As far as FDNY is concerned - Even if they only get the first batch of KME's with "issues" - they are no money behind in all reality. You can do A LOTTTTTTT of repairs for the difference of money on their bid spread of $200,000 a copy and honestly? Although I am a believer the KME's will be fine in FDNY - It's going to be KME's money if the trucks do not perform, not FDNY's!! So what has FDNY got to lose??
ANYONE buying trucks off single bids today is crazy - BUT - there are those with brand tattoo’s on their backsides, willing to put their job and reputations on line defending their brand choices and pay REDICULOUS money for a particular logo in the grill. My opinion? TOTALLY irresponsible - regardless of ANY brand someone is buying!! INSANE!!