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    My department is in the process of researching and spec-ing a new custom pumper. We currently have Pierce and E-one trucks and are leaning towards a Pierce Contender. Does anyone have any Contender specs or general information that you could send me that might help us out so we can get some information to our town council...For those of you with recent bids, roughly what cost are we talking for a Contender with CAFS?

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    Dan,

    You're going to have to be much more specific on pricing, too many variables. Try here, they have a price list for various rigs on a bid program:
    http://www.hgacbuy.org/products/gene...re2011.aspx#20

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    Dan,

    You're going to have to be much more specific on pricing, too many variables. Try here, they have a price list for various rigs on a bid program:
    http://www.hgacbuy.org/products/gene...re2011.aspx#20
    You will be in the range of $ 425k for a custom contender fully loaded.

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    Why not open it up to other manufacturers, you might get more truck for the buck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFD_E73_RET View Post
    Why not open it up to other manufacturers, you might get more truck for the buck?
    ........this.
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    Take a moment and forget about brand. Find out if there a dealer for fire trucks close. You want to buy a brand that has after sale support fairly close. You do not want to buy brand X and the only servicing dealer is 900 miles away,that means the truck sits useless till it is repaired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFD_E73_RET View Post
    Why not open it up to other manufacturers, you might get more truck for the buck?
    will CERTAINLY get more truck that a Contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    You will be in the range of $ 425k for a custom contender fully loaded.
    We took delivery in Oct of an couple of ArrowXT cab/chassis pumpers for less than $440k each.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFD2203 View Post
    We took delivery in Oct of an couple of ArrowXT cab/chassis pumpers for less than $440k each.....
    I taked with a Pierce sales rep last year and he said a custom contender pumper fully loaded without Cafs, would be in the range of $385,000, that was a 2011 price. Your department got a great deal on the Arrow XT pumpers, what motor, trans, and pump did you get for that amount? Most big block Pierce pumpers are starting at $500k & up!
    Last edited by Woodbridge; 03-31-2012 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    Most Pierce pumpers are starting at $500k & up!
    Not quite. A nearby department is running Quantums with big-blocks, Allison 4000's, and 1500gpm pumps for under $500k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    Not quite. A nearby department is running Quantums with big-blocks, Allison 4000's, and 1500gpm pumps for under $500k.
    Most custom pumpers from any builder are in the $450k- $ 500k price range !

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    We just purchased a Pierce Impel pumper/tanker tandem axle for just over $500k.

    1500gpm
    2500 gal poly tank
    3 -10" Newton dumps
    Fold down Zico ladder racks
    full height compartments on drivers side
    3/4 height compartments on officers side
    10KW hyd. generator
    Foam Pro system w/25 gal. Class A tank
    6 man cab with EMS cabinet
    LED lighting
    Through the tank compartment for dump tank
    Front intake w/ 6' mounted hard suction
    1 1/2" bumper discharge and hose tray
    450 hp Cummins
    Extend-a-gun moniter
    2 mounted hard suction hoses
    And a bunch of smaller misc. items

    A Contender should be much less.

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    A custom chassis pumper can be had with a 400HP cummins, 1500 gpm pump, 3000Evs trans, threw the tank ladders, with high side compartments, for just under $ 400k. The price jumps up when departments add options like Generators, cord reels, Q2, booster reels,electric moniters, light towers, front suction, rear suction,foam systems,gold leaf custom lettering,big blockmotors, 4000Evs trans, etc!
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    Been watching this thread ....sorry it took so long to post. We purchased a fully loaded Custom Contender back in 2008; by the way, there are no more Contenders.....it will be a Saber pumper that could be built in either factory depending on the scheduling at Pierce. in 2008 ours was $ 415,000, and it was fully loaded. CAFS, generator, custom paint color, custom suction hose boxes, electric reel, all new crosslay hose and nozzles, 60 gallons of Class a foam.......I have the build line sheet here somewhere

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    Question Contender By Pierce

    I was looking at the Pierce web site and could not locate the contender series apparatus, it seem is that they have discontinued the program trucks. How do you choose between a Florida built apparatus and a apparatus built in Appleton ?
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    You don't have a choice where your truck is built. It depends on production line scheduling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    You don't have a choice where your truck is built. It depends on production line scheduling.
    So what you are saying is that a pumper that costs $ 600k can be or will be built in the Florida, plant a long side a $ 200k commercial chassis apparatus. Will the same quality truck be there from both locations? I aways heard that only cookie cutter bodies were built at the Florida, plant and nothing custom ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    We just purchased a Pierce Impel pumper/tanker tandem axle for just over $500k.

    1500gpm
    2500 gal poly tank
    3 -10" Newton dumps
    Fold down Zico ladder racks
    full height compartments on drivers side
    3/4 height compartments on officers side
    10KW hyd. generator
    Foam Pro system w/25 gal. Class A tank
    6 man cab with EMS cabinet
    LED lighting
    Through the tank compartment for dump tank
    Front intake w/ 6' mounted hard suction
    1 1/2" bumper discharge and hose tray
    450 hp Cummins
    Extend-a-gun moniter
    2 mounted hard suction hoses
    And a bunch of smaller misc. items

    A Contender should be much less.
    Johnsb, why did you go with the Foam Pro over the Husky? Just wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikejake View Post
    Johnsb, why did you go with the Foam Pro over the Husky? Just wondering.
    Sorry, we are spec'ing a Husky 12 system. Don't know why I said Foam Pro. We also have it on one of our engines.

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    FYI: Pierce has discontinued using the "Contender" brand on their products built in Florida. All Pierce trucks are now a Pierce brand. The Saber is still built in Appleton, WI. while the "Saber SLT" (the old Custom Contender) is built in Bradenton, FL. The Saber SLT is the same truck as the Custom Contender was. Same cab (built in Appleton), pump house and hose body. Same high quality. Contact your local Pierce representative and talk with them. You won't be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MVFDWA View Post
    ...the "Saber SLT" (the old Custom Contender) is built in Bradenton, FL. The Saber SLT is the same truck as the Custom Contender was. Same cab (built in Appleton), pump house and hose body. ...
    and that way, Pierce can market it as a "new innovation".
    "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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    Default Pierce Saber

    We just bought a pierce saber rescue engine with a Waterous 1500gpm pump 400HP engine 750g tank Husky 3 foam system 30g foam, 20 Kw generator, 6,000 watt light tower full height full depth compartments. two hydraulic reels in rear compartment, one reel in the front bumper. Total cost was $420,000. All custom cabs built by pierce are built in WI, our body was built in FL at the Brandenton plant and they did an outstanding job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvfd1927 View Post
    We just bought a pierce saber rescue engine with a Waterous 1500gpm pump 400HP engine 750g tank Husky 3 foam system 30g foam, 20 Kw generator, 6,000 watt light tower full height full depth compartments. two hydraulic reels in rear compartment, one reel in the front bumper. Total cost was $420,000. All custom cabs built by pierce are built in WI, our body was built in FL at the Brandenton plant and they did an outstanding job.
    Do you know if the Saber chassis cab is available with " Barrier Doors " for 2012 models, a sales rep told me last year that they will become a option ? Also your department has got a nice rescue pumper for that $ price !!

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    What are "barrier doors"?

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    dammit... I had a post that would make some very unhappy with what we paid for, for a custom, with better specs. Instead, I'll say this....

    NEVER, EVER, put a EVS3000 behind an engine that is making more than 375HP (by today's engine ratings). You WILL, regret it.

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