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    The process in PG is a little bit different that other places. Everbody who passes the test gets a shot at CPAT. The only prior experience that helps you is EMT or Paramedic. College helps you as well. Your test score does stay with you. With a score in the 90's you're pretty set on going through the entire process as long as there is nothing bad in your background. The best information I can give you with no experience is look up some oral board questions. When you go on your interview, that's were the already having fire experience would help.


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    Engine, that is a great score. Higher than anyone here posted last year. Somehow mine managed to fall over 7 points from last year. Of all the tests I've taken, which granted is not nearly as many as some have, that one is by far the strangest. I suppose I have to agree that it pretty adequately levels the field for everyone. I also think though that the way it is written (vocabulary, sentence structure, readability etc.) could lead to people accidentally doing better than another person. I think there's entirely too much subjective psychology involved for a civil service test. To me it almost sacrifices intelligence for "how do you feel about..." I understand there's a significant people skills aspect to the job but I feel that that particular aspect of the job is misrepresented on the test as opposed to the ability to apply knowledge, synthesize particular information, or even demonstrate understanding of a given topic.

    In addition to EMT and P as well as having college, the biggest advantage I think you need for PG is to have or get CPAT as early in the process as you can. I recall people talking last year about them ending interviews a couple weeks after the final CPAT date. Assuming that minimally 50% of the candidates either waived the practice sessions, or didn't pass either of the practice sessions and were counting on the final run, it didn't seem to me there was much interest in interviewing those folks. The Chief of Training last year announced at the CPAT overview that 120 or so test-takers already had passed the CPAT. If you are looking for 60 or so positions as they were last year, you already have somewhat of a decent pool of candidates to pick from. Now lump in maybe 100 or so who passed the first CPAT practice run. Well now you're pulling 60 from 220 or so. That's 1 good candidate out of 4. That shouldn't be too hard to pull off. Mind you its merely my assumption of the situation and I could be miles off base. I don't believe that way of doing it is entirely equitable, but I suppose if its their prerogative well then that's up to them and I'm not going to put my bib and diaper on and say its not fair. It's my job to do my best to be able to pass the first practice run is all. Sorry for the rambling fellas. That is all.

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    Thanks for the advice mini. The oral board was the thing I failed to mention in my last post. From my understanding the oral board is the do or die part of the process and your score you take away from the oral board, for the most part, determines your spot on the hiring list. I have fire experience but do not have any experience with oral boards. From what I've read on the other forums it seems like they ask situational based questions?
    Jasper I do agree with you. I have taken this test once before, not in PG, and scored an 87. This time around, I did not feel like I did any better. Perhaps it was a matter of answering a few personality questions differently. I do also agree about having the CPAT in early. From what I've also read on the other forums, the guys who had there CPATs in early seemed to be at an advantage and go through the process much quicker. I am very fortunate that I already have a valid CPAT from another jurisdiction. I wish you the best of luck.

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    New to the forum. I also took the PG test. That was a crazy amount of people but i would say everything was very organized.

    I also got a 91 on the test and sent my cpat to the recruiter assuming that was the right place to send it to.

    Good luck to everyone as this long process goes on.

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    If you are looking for a personal trainer in the DC area that is specifically geared towards CPAT testing take a look at www.wildfireadventures.com. I ran the recruit training, CPAT testing and several other programs for Washington DCFD. DCFD does not currently have classes in session nor are we testing. Iíve tested several hundred applicants and know what is needed to pass the test. If youíre looking to get in shape or have a specific goal in mind such as CPAT take a look at the site. I'm doing the trainig in College Park.

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    Heard there was alot of people at the CPAT orientation

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    About 700 People

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engine2323 View Post
    Thanks for the advice mini. The oral board was the thing I failed to mention in my last post. From my understanding the oral board is the do or die part of the process and your score you take away from the oral board, for the most part, determines your spot on the hiring list. I have fire experience but do not have any experience with oral boards. From what I've read on the other forums it seems like they ask situational based questions?
    Jasper I do agree with you. I have taken this test once before, not in PG, and scored an 87. This time around, I did not feel like I did any better. Perhaps it was a matter of answering a few personality questions differently. I do also agree about having the CPAT in early. From what I've also read on the other forums, the guys who had there CPATs in early seemed to be at an advantage and go through the process much quicker. I am very fortunate that I already have a valid CPAT from another jurisdiction. I wish you the best of luck.
    Having a early CPAT or previously valid CPAT doesn't make any difference. If you pass it the first time or the last time doesn't matter either if you get hired or not, several people who were hired last year failed it the first time. The oral board's impact is not known and you'll never know how much it weighs either. Some recruits say they stumbled through about half of the oral board yet they still we're hired. Having a EMT or Medic matters the most as was previously stated mainly because they will separate classes between who has EMT and who doesn't. Recruits with EMT certs will most likely be hired first. Other than those things just keep outta trouble and keep in shape. If you have the opportunity to do the training for the CPAT with the Lt. that runs it, take advantage of it regardless if you need it or not.

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    any news on the front?

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    I havent heard anything yet. When I sent in my CPAT and asked about when interviews would be the exact reply I got back was "July-August" so keep an eye out, hopefully things will be coming down soon.

    Anyone know if they are looking at hiring majority of military? I heard since the president is trying to push returning vets into public safety some departments are trying to do that for grant money etc. Thoughts?

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    ***UPDATE***So I emailed people at HR. I got back that CPATs arent even completed yet and they wont be sending out notifications for the next step until CPATs are complete. Additionally, they pushed back the recruit school to May/June 2013. Patience Brothers.

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    Its been a month since the last post..has anyone heard ANYTHING?!

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    Has anyone heard anything? Also, anyone that checks there status on Governmentjobs.gov has there current step been updated? Mine still says CPAT as current step but I passed it on the first run we got which was back in july. I was told that due to the election and other political drama that were pushing oral interviews back. Just curious if they have even started yet or not.

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    From the Recruitment Facebook Page. Search "PGFD Fit for Duty" in your Facebook search bar.

    PGFD Fit For Duty

    November 11.

    We are gearing up for the Oral Interview stage of the PGFD hiring process. Keep an eye out for your scheduled time/date. Planning a practice interview session soon and will be posting details. All are invited to attend and encouraged to read up on Civil Service Interview questions.


    PGFD Fit For Duty

    November 21.

    We have recieved interview schedule for applicants and would like to host some practice session. Need some input from you guys on when? evening/weekends/weekdays/afternoon
    What that actually means I'm not sure. I've been soured by another local department recently who seems just to hire whomever they want completely disregarding any of the assessment criteria. I hope PG is at least a little more on-the-level.

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    Has anyone been contacted for the physical? or have any information? I know all of my back round check contacts have been contacted but have not heard anything besides that

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    Quote Originally Posted by joerl View Post
    Has anyone been contacted for the physical? or have any information? I know all of my back round check contacts have been contacted but have not heard anything besides that
    Did you do the interview? I haven't heard anything since turning in my CPAT cert.

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    Yea had my back round interview, psych eval, oral board, and they have contacted all my backround contacts just curious if anyone else in the same boat

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    Like I said I havent heard anything since the CPAT. When did you turn your background packet in? I never even got info on that...if there was any?

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    yea they did all that stuff back in october /novemeber the academy is supposed to start january and then another one in may from what I have heard

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    Well at least this process was on the level.

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