The Pierce PUC and E-One EMax

[RFDGloWorm]

Who out there has one of these type rigs? Is your department paid or volunteer? If you have one, how does your department utilize it during day to day operations?

[FWDbuff]

Who out there has one of these type rigs? Is your department paid or volunteer? If you have one, how does your department utilize it during day to day operations?

Just curious- what difference does it make if the Dept is career or volunteer?

[RFDGloWorm]

Why is it that you always like to create a ****ing contest for paid versus vollie?

I'm doing research, get over yourself already. A paid department may staff it full time and run it as a Squad company, whereas a vollie department may leave it sitting in the house, unstaffed, and used solely for pin jobs.

Stop hijacking....if you'd like to answer the simple questions I asked, please do. If not, STFU and go to another thread. I'm done with you....

[FWDbuff]

I'm doing research, get over yourself already. A paid department may staff it full time and run it as a Squad company, whereas a vollie department may leave it sitting in the house, unstaffed, and used solely for pin jobs.

Wow.....You need to get laid. Sounds to me like you are looking for information on how durable the units are depending on how busy the department is. If this is the case, get over yourself because there are many, many Volunteer departments out there that run engine or squad companies 5000 plus runs per year.......Hence my question.

Please dont hit me with your purse.

[RFDGloWorm]

Wow.....You need to get laid. Sounds to me like you are looking for information on how durable the units are depending on how busy the department is. If this is the case, get over yourself because there are many, many Volunteer departments out there that run engine or squad companies 5000 plus runs per year.......Hence my question.

Please dont hit me with your purse.

I get laid plenty, thanks, versus the alternative of jackin' over my monthly subscription of "FWD Beauties". It isn't the first time that your pink thong was too tight and started crying about paid versus volunteer or hijacked a thread, when someone asked a simple question.

I know there are plenty of vollie agencies out there that run plenty, and catch more fire than some paid gigs. I have friends in some of those agencies, so thanks again.

So moving forward, are you going to answer the questions I asked or are you too busy waiting by the mailbox for the next edition? I hear the April centerfold is a beaut'!

[nameless]

GLoWorm has a point. With one of these multi-function rigs, a volunteer department could be attracted to it for much different reasons than a paid department. It's not who's worse or who's better, it's just that they are different organizations.

[BoxAlarm187]

FWD, please stop stirring the career-volunteer debate.

Anyway, to the OP - we have a PUC at work, and it's used as a rescue-engine. We're one of the bases for the regional technical rescue team, so it (along with the station's tower ladder and tractor-trailer) are loaded to the gills with tech rescue equipment, but it still serves as a standard engine company for day-to-day activities.

We've also spec'd a PUC-style engine for the VFD, which will serve as a rescue-engine as well. It will serve as an engine about 50% of the time, and a rescue about 50% of the time, as we run a pile of MVA's and very few fires. As for the vehicle itself, I can't say much more than that since the bid award hasn't been announced, however.

[nameless]

How do you guys like it as an engine?

[RFDGloWorm]

Thanks Box....yeah, so how do you guys like it as an engine? I imagine the pump panel configuration was weird at first.

[BoxAlarm187]

As a company officer in another station in another battalion, there's little to no chance that I'll ever ride that rig in a response situation, so I really can't offer a lot of personal opinion about the vehicle.

Before the company had the PUC, they had a Pierce HDRP as their daily ride. The rig, which now serves as a reserve heavy rescue, was very tall, very long, had an astronomical wheelbase, and a hosebed up in the heavens. It did, however, have huge compartment space. This rig was up for replacement soon after the PUC was released, so we were able to get a much more compact vehicle while compartment space that was nearly equal to the HDRP, so we took the opportunity to try the PUC. Since the PUC was such a new design at the time, we didn't have a lot other PUCs to compare it to for design and layout ideas. If we were to order another one today, we'd change some of the design elements on it.

I know that some of the guys would prefer a more traditional pumper. However, I couldn't tell you if that's because the fire service is mired in tradition, or because they don't feel like the PUC meets their needs as well as a standard pumper might. The replacement of the PUC is many years away, so it's hard to say what our response model and needs for that particular district will be at that time.

I'll ask some of the guys there soon for some feedback and see what I get.

[RFDGloWorm]

As a company officer in another station in another battalion, there's little to no chance that I'll ever ride that rig in a response situation, so I really can't offer a lot of personal opinion about the vehicle.

Before the company had the PUC, they had a Pierce HDRP as their daily ride. The rig, which now serves as a reserve heavy rescue, was very tall, very long, had an astronomical wheelbase, and a hosebed up in the heavens. It did, however, have huge compartment space. This rig was up for replacement soon after the PUC was released, so we were able to get a much more compact vehicle while compartment space that was nearly equal to the HDRP, so we took the opportunity to try the PUC. Since the PUC was such a new design at the time, we didn't have a lot other PUCs to compare it to for design and layout ideas. If we were to order another one today, we'd change some of the design elements on it.

I know that some of the guys would prefer a more traditional pumper. However, I couldn't tell you if that's because the fire service is mired in tradition, or because they don't feel like the PUC meets their needs as well as a standard pumper might. The replacement of the PUC is many years away, so it's hard to say what our response model and needs for that particular district will be at that time.

I'll ask some of the guys there soon for some feedback and see what I get.

Please do, ask around and let me know what others think. Thanks!