NFPA and appartus

[Giveitashot]

Does anyone have a link or official information with regards to NFPA and appartus age. Trying to get the information and relate it to the age of our front run (and reserve) suppression units. I have heard talk of a first 5 years as front run and second 5 in reserve, but can't seem to find any concrete sources...

[BoxAlarm187]

NPFA 1901 Annex D recommends that vehicles be removed from front line service at 20 years, and removed from service altogether at 25 years old.

Here's a link that provides some additional points of information.

[johnsb]

Does anyone have a link or official information with regards to NFPA and appartus age. Trying to get the information and relate it to the age of our front run (and reserve) suppression units. I have heard talk of a first 5 years as front run and second 5 in reserve, but can't seem to find any concrete sources...

NFPA or not, unless you absolutely wear the dogsnot out of a truck, (which would more likely be abuse than wear) you would be stupid and irresponsible to move a truck costing hundreds of thousands of dollars to reserve status after only five years. Most departments that properly maintain a truck can easily get 10-15 years out of a truck today. And another 5-10 in reserve status.

[FIREMECH1]

Apparatus manufactured prior to 1991 usually included only a few of the safety upgrades required by the recent editions of the NFPA fire department apparatus standards or the equivalent Underwriters’ Laboratories of Canada (ULC) standards. Because the changes, upgrades, and fine tuning to NFPA 1901, Standard for Automotive Fire Apparatus, have been truly significant, especially in the area of safety, fire departments should seriously consider the value (or risk) to fire fighters of keeping fire apparatus older than 15 years in first-line service.
It is recommended that apparatus greater than 15 years old, that have been properly maintained, and that are still in serviceable condition, be placed in reserve status and upgraded in accordance with NFPA 1912, Standard for Fire Apparatus Refurbishing to incorporate as many features as possible of the current fire apparatus standard (see Section D.3).

Link here: http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files/PDF...8-ROPDraft.pdf : Go to pg 173.

Take it as you will, it is only a "guideline", not law. With that, there are alot of variables as to how long a rig should be ran as front line, and then reserve. As a minimum, I would expect a custom rig to run 10-15 yrs, then 5 yrs as a reserve.

FM1

[Giveitashot]

Thanks for the info above. I guess the gameplan for certain dept. locally is the 5 in front run and 5 in reserve for budget purposes and to allow some leeway if budget gets tight one year or another. The 10 in front and 5 and reserve is much more logical and practical.

[Dickey]

Replacement totally depends on how it is used and maintained. Example...FDNY only gets about 5-10 years, with a great maintenance program. Podunk, WI gets 20+ years with a great maintenance program.

totally depends on the needs of the individual department. No blanket policy will work for everyone.

[tree68]

We've only got one engine, and it's doing 20 years. In fact, this is it's twentieth year. We anticipate a replacement in two years, per current planning. The other station in the district has a slightly older engine that's getting replaced first.