Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By BoxAlarm187
  • 1 Post By FIREMECH1

Thread: NFPA and appartus

  1. #1
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    18

    Default NFPA and appartus

    Does anyone have a link or official information with regards to NFPA and appartus age. Trying to get the information and relate it to the age of our front run (and reserve) suppression units. I have heard talk of a first 5 years as front run and second 5 in reserve, but can't seem to find any concrete sources...

  2. #2
    Let's talk fire trucks!
    BoxAlarm187's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    3,335

    Default

    NPFA 1901 Annex D recommends that vehicles be removed from front line service at 20 years, and removed from service altogether at 25 years old.

    Here's a link that provides some additional points of information.
    BrightonFD618 likes this.
    Career Fire Captain
    Volunteer Chief Officer


    Never taking for granted that I'm privileged enough to have the greatest job in the world!

  3. #3
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    1,199

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Giveitashot View Post
    Does anyone have a link or official information with regards to NFPA and appartus age. Trying to get the information and relate it to the age of our front run (and reserve) suppression units. I have heard talk of a first 5 years as front run and second 5 in reserve, but can't seem to find any concrete sources...
    NFPA or not, unless you absolutely wear the dogsnot out of a truck, (which would more likely be abuse than wear) you would be stupid and irresponsible to move a truck costing hundreds of thousands of dollars to reserve status after only five years. Most departments that properly maintain a truck can easily get 10-15 years out of a truck today. And another 5-10 in reserve status.

  4. #4
    Forum Member
    FIREMECH1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    HUSKER LAND
    Posts
    2,425

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NFPA 1901, Appendix D
    Apparatus manufactured prior to 1991 usually included only a few of the safety upgrades required by the recent editions of the NFPA fire department apparatus standards or the equivalent Underwriters’ Laboratories of Canada (ULC) standards. Because the changes, upgrades, and fine tuning to NFPA 1901, Standard for Automotive Fire Apparatus, have been truly significant, especially in the area of safety, fire departments should seriously consider the value (or risk) to fire fighters of keeping fire apparatus older than 15 years in first-line service.
    It is recommended that apparatus greater than 15 years old, that have been properly maintained, and that are still in serviceable condition, be placed in reserve status and upgraded in accordance with NFPA 1912, Standard for Fire Apparatus Refurbishing to incorporate as many features as possible of the current fire apparatus standard (see Section D.3).
    Link here: http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files/PDF...8-ROPDraft.pdf : Go to pg 173.

    Take it as you will, it is only a "guideline", not law. With that, there are alot of variables as to how long a rig should be ran as front line, and then reserve. As a minimum, I would expect a custom rig to run 10-15 yrs, then 5 yrs as a reserve.

    FM1
    Thomas Williams likes this.
    I'm the one Fire and Rescue calls, when they need to be Rescued.

    Quote Originally Posted by EastKyFF
    "Firemens gets antsies. Theys wants to goes to fires. Sometimeses they haves to waits."

  5. #5
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    18

    Default

    Thanks for the info above. I guess the gameplan for certain dept. locally is the 5 in front run and 5 in reserve for budget purposes and to allow some leeway if budget gets tight one year or another. The 10 in front and 5 and reserve is much more logical and practical.

  6. #6
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Dickey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2000
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    5,112

    Default

    Replacement totally depends on how it is used and maintained. Example...FDNY only gets about 5-10 years, with a great maintenance program. Podunk, WI gets 20+ years with a great maintenance program.

    totally depends on the needs of the individual department. No blanket policy will work for everyone.
    Jason Knecht
    Assistant Chief
    Altoona Fire Dept.
    Altoona, WI

    IACOJ - Director of Cheese and Whine
    http://www.cheddarvision.tv/
    EAT CHEESE OR DIE!!

  7. #7
    MembersZone Subscriber
    tree68's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Jefferson County, NY USA
    Posts
    2,331

    Default

    We've only got one engine, and it's doing 20 years. In fact, this is it's twentieth year. We anticipate a replacement in two years, per current planning. The other station in the district has a slightly older engine that's getting replaced first.
    Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

    Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Appartus acidents
    By kjohn23 in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-13-2004, 10:23 PM
  2. Ferrara Appartus
    By jgrif72 in forum Apparatus Innovation
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 02-13-2003, 06:22 PM
  3. Appartus setup
    By Lawrence Fire in forum Fireground Tactics
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 05-12-2002, 04:12 PM
  4. Appartus Setup
    By Lawrence Fire in forum Apparatus Innovation
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-25-2002, 12:27 AM
  5. Appartus setup
    By Lawrence Fire in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-23-2002, 09:26 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Log in

Click here to log in or register