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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGriffC12 View Post
    Can you back that up? AND.....we all know that the rangers didn't land on Omaha beach, they climbed up the face of the cliff to take out the big guns Point De Hooke I believe.
    Can you back up that it is based on the Sullivan's brothers?

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    They're both movies. Movies are supposed to entertain not necessarily educate. They couldn't show more than 20m of the Army stuck on the beach because movie audiences aren't real keen on sitting through movies that last more than a couple of hours. The first troops hit the beach about 6:00a and didn't get to the bluff till about noon. Whose going to sit through six hours of that? And theater owners are less keen on showing movies of great length because it cuts into their profit business models. They make money the more tickets they sell. It was one of the reasons Stallone's movies were typically in the 90m range. That way he and the theaters could get at least one extra showing a day. Movie story lines (in case none of you noticed) must contain some type of conflict in order to hold the audiences attention.

    I watched Backdraft, I thought it entertaining. Should they make a movie about what goes on in the fire service? The incredible number of calls that are not more than "I've fallen and can't get up?" Or maybe they can show us doing something riveting like a fire inspection and then for additional flavor they can show us filling out the paperwork to return to the bureau.

    Movies have one specific purpose. To make money for their investors. If one is looking for realism on the silver screen you're going to endure a great deal of disappointment.
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    Back on topic, another one I liked....

    Truck 46 lieutenant (after stepping on Brian at the garment factory fire):
    "Sorry, kid, I thought you were dead!"
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    I think the problem is most guys I know hate that movie.... Hollywood's problem is they think a FF's life is a drama when its mostly a comedy.

    Now if Quintin Tarrentino was to make one, we'd have a winner . Sometimes i think The scirpt from Reservoir Dogs was taken from our kitchen table.....

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    So much for trying to have a light, somewhat comedic, topic.

    This place is ****ing doomed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post

    This place is ****ing doomed.
    I don't remember that quote in the movie? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post
    I don't remember that quote in the movie? lol
    I think it was edited out of the final cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    They're both movies. Movies are supposed to entertain not necessarily educate.

    If one is looking for realism on the silver screen you're going to endure a great deal of disappointment.
    Oh so very true.

    This sums it up totally. Nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    So much for trying to have a light, somewhat comedic, topic.

    This place is ****ing doomed.
    Hey, my quote was from the movie. I was in here doin' it Fyred, you don't know what I did! You weren't there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    The Sullivan's all served aboard the same ship and were lost when the U.S.S. Juno sank, there was nothing that could be done to save 1 of them.
    Actually, three of the Sullivan brothers died during the November 13th Night Battle of Guadalcanal, from shell fire from both Japanese and American shells. Juneau was hit several times, by mainly Japanese shells but there are indications that American naval fire hit it as well (along with several other ships). As the Juneau joined the rest of the remains of the Task Force and limped home towards safety she was hit and rapidly sunk by a torpedo. The commanding officer of the USS Portland decided at the time with a lack of sonar capability (only two destroyers remained afloat) and the tremendous explosion, to continue on with the rest of the Task Force in radio silence. Over 300 sailors survived the sinking of the Juneau, including at least one of the Sullivan brothers, George the oldest.

    What played out in the next 10 days was a dark spot that still remains largely hidden in the annuals of the US Navy. If crew size is considered and factored in, roughly the same amount of men from the Juneau hit the water as the USS Indianapolis in 1945. Less than 100 men survived the sinking of the Juneau. They were left adrift in the South Pacific. The last known sighting of George Sullivan was around the 5th or 6th day in the water if I remember correctly. He began to hallucinate and see his brothers and the ship. Other survivors pleaded with him to remain with the group and hang on, but he started to get violent. He called out for his youngest brother and began to swam into the Pacific never to be seen again.

    In short, there was a lot the Navy could have done to save those men. Many more men survived the sinking of the Indy so it was harder for the Navy to "cover up". The lack of survivors has doomed the gallant crew of the Juneau into the realm of the forgotten.

    As for the quote? "I think it appropriate that we recognize the two asswipes... Probationary Firemen... among us today who were officially baptized into the world of Old Man Fire. First, to Tim. Despite the fact that he has a rather dull expression, and a really hideous pair of ears; he not only took on the beast but pulled from its clutches, assisted by a more famous and brilliant firefighter, me, a kicking and screaming civilian who will probably wind up suing us for breaking her fingernails"
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    So much for trying to have a light, somewhat comedic, topic.

    This place is ****ing doomed.
    Sorry for bursting your bubble, I just absolutely hate that movie. Now if you had brought up Johnny and Roy, THAT'S another matter entirely, 'cause that S#!t was REAL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    Sorry for bursting your bubble, I just absolutely hate that movie. Now if you had brought up Johnny and Roy, THAT'S another matter entirely, 'cause that S#!t was REAL!!!
    Well, good for you that you hate the movie. I didn't ask for movie critics. I posted a light hearted topic about a favorite movie of mine. Then I asked for favorite quotes from it.

    I know it is Hollywood. I know it isn't real. I don't care anymore than I care when I am watching one of the Dirty Harry movies, or one of the Die Hard movies, or any war movie. It is entertainment, pure and simple.

    I might as well go back to being a bad attitude crumudgeon...

    To be honest I don't spend near as much time here as I used to...there is little knowledge being passed on, damn little Brotherhood, and mostly snipers looking to pounce on anything posted. Sad really, this place used to have so much to offer...
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    I guess I know why firemen become firemen and not cops. They all whine too much about the accuracy of movies, they could never deal with all the cop tv shows and movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Well, good for you that you hate the movie. I didn't ask for movie critics. I posted a light hearted topic about a favorite movie of mine. Then I asked for favorite quotes from it. Then perhaps in the future, you might want to give us some advanced directives about what kind of answers you want on a public opinion forum.


    I might as well go back to being a bad attitude crumudgeon...Back to? You were taking a break from it? You have a bad attitude, coupled with really thin skin. If someone dare challenge your opinion, you become this internet tough guy. Please, you take this place, and yourself much too seriously.

    To be honest I don't spend near as much time here as I used to...there is little knowledge being passed on, damn little Brotherhood, and mostly snipers looking to pounce on anything posted. Sad really, this place used to have so much to offer...You totally just described yourself as it relates to this site. This place did have a lot to offer until guys like you would log on and belittle a brand new guy on what might have been his first forum post ever. To some, that kind of embarassment is enough to stop them from posting ever again. You have a lot to learn about Brotherhood treating complete strangers on here the way you do.
    So you got sniped on one of your threads, big deal. You asked for input, don't lay parameters on what people can reply with. If you want to buff that film, then by all means, buff it.
    You say this place is doomed? I've said that a time or two myself. The only difference is that my reasoning is probably closer to the truth than yours.
    Get over yourself...

    p.s. When you reply to this, spare me the three paragraph resume' detailing your life's work, I'm not impressed. But do include how much you couldn't "care less" about what I or anybody else thinks. I like it when you put up two pages about something you don't care about.
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    Originally Posted by FyredUp

    Well, good for you that you hate the movie. I didn't ask for movie critics. I posted a light hearted topic about a favorite movie of mine. Then I asked for favorite quotes from it. Then perhaps in the future, you might want to give us some advanced directives about what kind of answers you want on a public opinion forum.

    Really? I guess I wasn't OBVIOUS enough when I said POST YOUR FAVORITE QUOTE. I would think that wouldn't cpnfuse anyone, even you.

    I might as well go back to being a bad attitude crumudgeon...Back to? You were taking a break from it? You have a bad attitude, coupled with really thin skin. If someone dare challenge your opinion, you become this internet tough guy. Please, you take this place, and yourself much too seriously.

    And I have been admonished for it. I even apologized to junior22. I tried to start a light hearted post and it become you playing moderator and scolding parent. Sorry, not interested.


    To be honest I don't spend near as much time here as I used to...there is little knowledge being passed on, damn little Brotherhood, and mostly snipers looking to pounce on anything posted. Sad really, this place used to have so much to offer...You totally just described yourself as it relates to this site. This place did have a lot to offer until guys like you would log on and belittle a brand new guy on what might have been his first forum post ever. To some, that kind of embarassment is enough to stop them from posting ever again. You have a lot to learn about Brotherhood treating complete strangers on here the way you do.

    I have done that, I admit it. But I have also come on here and said "Whoa, give the new guy a chance" when I felt others were unjustly pounding on someone. Looking at some others on this site I use kid gloves on many that others rip to shreds.

    I don't need lessons from the likes of you on Brotherhood. I fully understand Brotherhood and it doesn't come from the posts on the internet. I would wager a year's salary that anyone that actually knows me would defend me against your charge. But believe what you want, it really am not affected by your opinion.






    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    So you got sniped on one of your threads, big deal. You asked for input, don't lay parameters on what people can reply with. If you want to buff that film, then by all means, buff it.

    Thank you for your wonderful input.

    You say this place is doomed? I've said that a time or two myself. The only difference is that my reasoning is probably closer to the truth than yours.

    Yes, oh omnipotent and wise one.

    Get over yourself...

    Right after you...

    p.s. When you reply to this, spare me the three paragraph resume' detailing your life's work, I'm not impressed. But do include how much you couldn't "care less" about what I or anybody else thinks. I like it when you put up two pages about something you don't care about.

    I don't care to, or need to, impress you with anything. Frankly, when you post something here other than wise cracks, and sniping yourself then I will take what you think of me seriously.

    Congratulations on your self appointed position of moderator. I am sure you will do a fine job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Originally Posted by FyredUp

    Well, good for you that you hate the movie. I didn't ask for movie critics. I posted a light hearted topic about a favorite movie of mine. Then I asked for favorite quotes from it. Then perhaps in the future, you might want to give us some advanced directives about what kind of answers you want on a public opinion forum.

    Really? I guess I wasn't OBVIOUS enough when I said POST YOUR FAVORITE QUOTE. I would think that wouldn't cpnfuse anyone, even you.

    I might as well go back to being a bad attitude crumudgeon...Back to? You were taking a break from it? You have a bad attitude, coupled with really thin skin. If someone dare challenge your opinion, you become this internet tough guy. Please, you take this place, and yourself much too seriously.

    And I have been admonished for it. I even apologized to junior22. I tried to start a light hearted post and it become you playing moderator and scolding parent. Sorry, not interested.


    To be honest I don't spend near as much time here as I used to...there is little knowledge being passed on, damn little Brotherhood, and mostly snipers looking to pounce on anything posted. Sad really, this place used to have so much to offer...You totally just described yourself as it relates to this site. This place did have a lot to offer until guys like you would log on and belittle a brand new guy on what might have been his first forum post ever. To some, that kind of embarassment is enough to stop them from posting ever again. You have a lot to learn about Brotherhood treating complete strangers on here the way you do.

    I have done that, I admit it. But I have also come on here and said "Whoa, give the new guy a chance" when I felt others were unjustly pounding on someone. Looking at some others on this site I use kid gloves on many that others rip to shreds.

    I don't need lessons from the likes of you on Brotherhood. I fully understand Brotherhood and it doesn't come from the posts on the internet. I would wager a year's salary that anyone that actually knows me would defend me against your charge. But believe what you want, it really am not affected by your opinion.








    Congratulations on your self appointed position of moderator. I am sure you will do a fine job.
    Is that your best material? I used to think you had some credibility until you started picking on the under 18 crowd. Do you teach your classes this way? It must be nice to have been gifted enough to start out in the fire service with the advantage of knowing the answers to all the questions that you and your "followers" (hahaha!) think are stupid questions.

    But I digress. The best defense is no defense, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Well, good for you that you hate the movie. I didn't ask for movie critics. I posted a light hearted topic about a favorite movie of mine. Then I asked for favorite quotes from it.

    I know it is Hollywood. I know it isn't real. I don't care anymore than I care when I am watching one of the Dirty Harry movies, or one of the Die Hard movies, or any war movie. It is entertainment, pure and simple.

    I might as well go back to being a bad attitude crumudgeon...

    To be honest I don't spend near as much time here as I used to...there is little knowledge being passed on, damn little Brotherhood, and mostly snipers looking to pounce on anything posted. Sad really, this place used to have so much to offer...
    So I post a lighthearted response, and you get your panties all twisted after you complain about everyone else responding negatively. Sheesh!

    BTW, most firehouses I've ever been in, there's quite a bit of Ball bustin' going on. And that's on the guys we LIKE. You only had to worry if no one talked to you at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    Is that your best material? I used to think you had some credibility until you started picking on the under 18 crowd. Do you teach your classes this way? It must be nice to have been gifted enough to start out in the fire service with the advantage of knowing the answers to all the questions that you and your "followers" (hahaha!) think are stupid questions.

    But I digress. The best defense is no defense, right?
    And, I rethought my responses in there and apologized to the junior. I also said that I would not engage in another pointless battle with LA over underage firefighters. So tell me again about my attitude. It sure seems you care an awful lot about what I say here.

    Actually I am a very popular instructor with many departments specifically requesting me. But you won't believe that so who cares what you think about me?

    No, I was fully aware that I knew nothing other than what I observed watching my Dad be a firefighter while I was growing up. The difference was I wasn't a dumbass. I kept my mouth shut. I listened, watched and learned. I asked questions when I didn't understand. I didn't expect to be a full responding firefighter at 14 years old. So sorry to burst your bubble.

    Apparently your best defense is to attack others and then try to hide what you are doing behind your cape of being the unofficial FH.com moderator. WOW! Are you unimportant or what?

    I can't help but wonder why, if I annoy you so much, you don't just put me on ignore. It would sure seem to end the horrible pain I cause you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    And, I rethought my responses in there and apologized to the junior. I also said that I would not engage in another pointless battle with LA over underage firefighters. So tell me again about my attitude. It sure seems you care an awful lot about what I say here.I'm glad you apologized to him. You want a cookie?What about the countless others that you have berated, belittled, and shamed. One atta boy doesn't wipe out all the oh schits.

    Actually I am a very popular instructor with many departments specifically requesting me. But you won't believe that so who cares what you think about me?Actually I do believe you, you just act tough behind your computer screen. But you don't care what I think...

    No, I was fully aware that I knew nothing other than what I observed watching my Dad be a firefighter while I was growing up. The difference was I wasn't a dumbass. I kept my mouth shut. I listened, watched and learned. I asked questions when I didn't understand. I didn't expect to be a full responding firefighter at 14 years old. So sorry to burst your bubble. . "Bubble not bursted, in fact I'm erecting a statue in your honor. "First kid in history to learn everything ever known without being a dumbass"! I'll mount it right on the lid to the toilet tank.

    Apparently your best defense is to attack others and then try to hise what you are doing behind your cape of being the unofficial FH.com moderator. WOW! Are you unimportant or what? Does your a-hole ever get jealous of all the schit that comes out of your mouth?

    I can't help but wonder why, if I annoy you so much, you don't just put me on ignore. It would sure seem to end the horrible pain I cause you.
    Put you on ignore? That would be a terrible thing to do, I don't think your fragile ego could handle that. Besides, I like you.
    What annoys me is the fact that you say this place is doomed right after you flame a kid for getting something that he had no control over. The more he tried to politely reason with you, the harsher you got. That is your m.o., you love to grind in on someone that throws the white flag. All anyone has to do is look at this thread to see that.

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    Hey, Swayzak?

    You missed it.

    Get over there. Keep 'em busy.

    You should've been there. It was f'ing great!

    We almost lost a whole goddamn company for you.

    Since you shut down there's no f'ing backup.

    We appreciate it. I don't know about the rest,

    - but you got my vote for mayor. Where's that f'ing guy buy his shoes?

    Did you check those out? They're like f'ing butter.
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    I remember seeing Scott Glenn (the actor who played Axe) interviewed on a late night show. He talked about how he and Kurt Russell were doing their visits and ride-alongs to get familiar with their characters and get a feel for life in the firehouse. So initially the fellas in CFD are very stand offish. Not really saying a whole lot. But (he says) they're working along side them doing training and all the rest. So the interviewer (I think it was Leno) asks if there was ever any level of acceptance. He says "yes," there was a point in time when he thought the guard had been let down somewhat. Leno asks to be more specific. Glenn says it was when the dinner table conversation turned to wanting specific descriptions of body parts of the different actresses he'd act with over the course of his career.


    I thought, sounds like firemen.
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    is that the 2nd lead out!!??

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    I recently pulled this off with glass doors at 1am when the lights were on, could see right in... I don't think any passing cars could look long enough to see, but the cop doing radar across the street probably got a show!

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