I'm getting a Pager?

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Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo

Truly a legend in your own mind.... :rolleyes:

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One of a breed.

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Originally Posted by LaFireEducator

Never said that I alone was the reason.

However, before I did assume the responsibility for managing and expanding the program in both situations prevention programs were limited and uncoordinated, and generally only done at the request of the customer.

And in both situations the command staff has credited me for directing and developing coordinated programs that reached out to the community to develop an on-going yearly program.

That being said, yes, I am very good at my job.

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I feel bad that I dumped all that old lead based paint in the creek a few years back, it must have run WAY downstream and ended up in Bossier parishes drinking water.

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Originally Posted by slackjawedyokel

I feel bad that I dumped all that old lead based paint in the creek a few years back, it must have run WAY downstream and ended up in Bossier parishes drinking water.

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It all makes sense now.

Wow all of this because a kid was getting a silly pager! He needs a pager like we all need another head!

I am surprised that this thread ahs lasted this long before being locked for being useless.

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Junior 22 use your time more wisely and study the books so you can graduate some day. Leave this buisness to the older members. When I was 14 I had girls on my mind!

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Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer

Wow all of this because a kid was getting a silly pager! He needs a pager like we all need another head!

I am surprised that this thread ahs lasted this long before being locked for being useless.

:rolleyes:

Junior 22 use your time more wisely and study the books so you can graduate some day. Leave this buisness to the older members. When I was 14 I had girls on my mind!

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I'm sure he does as well. And is counting on a pager being able to show girls that he is important. I think both parties are in for a disappointment.

And I agree that he should concentrate on his grades. When I left my old job over 2/3rds of our academy had college degrees with many being at the graduate level. In addition to having life experience in little groups like the Army Rangers or Navy SEALS, or working in the private sector in any number of professions.

Junior ...

Hit the books and be involved in the fire department.

Perform the tasks that your department allows you to perform.

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Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer

Wow all of this because a kid was getting a silly pager! He needs a pager like we all need another head!

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After looking over this thread, I'm pretty sure "junior" isn't a "he" at all, but a confused young lady. The hysterics give her away in almost every post.

BTW...she's still more of a man than LaFireMiseducator. I mean, seriously; this is the guy who would let a child burn to death in a vehicle fire without lifting a finger to help. You really think he would think twice about sending children into a burning house while he stood at a safe distance?

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Originally Posted by slackjawedyokel

I feel bad that I dumped all that old lead based paint in the creek a few years back, it must have run WAY downstream and ended up in Bossier parishes drinking water.

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Yeah...and mixed with all the lead paint already down there.

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Originally Posted by ThNozzleman

After looking over this thread, I'm pretty sure "junior" isn't a "he" at all, but a confused young lady. The hysterics give her away in almost every post.

BTW...she's still more of a man than LaFireMiseducator. I mean, seriously; this is the guy who would let a child burn to death in a vehicle fire without lifting a finger to help. You really think he would think twice about sending children into a burning house while he stood at a safe distance?

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And where exactly did I state that juniors should be making interior attacks on burning structures?

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Originally Posted by LaFireEducator

And where exactly did I state that juniors should be making interior attacks on burning structures?

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Boy, nothing gets by you, does it? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by LaFireEducator

And where exactly did I state that juniors should be making interior attacks on burning structures?

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In other words...

"You are spot on with your assumption I would leave the burning child in the car. The other part, well I will need you to provide more evidence to me that I suck."

[QUOTE=GTRider245;1331089]In other words...

Doesn't really matter what I would do in that situation.

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Originally Posted by GTRider245

In other words...

Doesn't really matter what I would do in that situation.

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It does if the victim is depending on you to perform a rescue...

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Originally Posted by GTRider245

In other words...

Doesn't really matter what I would do in that situation.

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I have asked you this before and will ask you again...WHY are you in the firefighting career? You feel no obligation as a human being, let alone a firefighter, to risk your own safety to save anyone, including your own family.

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Originally Posted by LaFireEducator

It does if the victim is depending on you to perform a rescue...

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If I'm off-duty or out of my district the victim shouldn't be depending on me, or any other off-duty personnel.

What if I had been coming back from a praty and maybe had a couple of drinks? Not drunk at all but just a tad impaired. Still obligated to act in your mind? Or maybe bummed a shoulder a little bit the day before. Still obligated?

The fact is when somebody is off-duty, they are just that. If they choose to act, that's fine, but there is no obligation to act and likely they wiill have to personally deal with the concequences.

Again, sad to say but the victim got him/herself into the situation. Off-duty or out-of-district members are not responders. They are just plain folks who have a choice.

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Originally Posted by LaFireEducator

I have asked you this before and will ask you again...WHY are you in the firefighting career? You feel no obligation as a human being, let alone a firefighter, to risk your own safety to save anyone, including your own family.

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I feel an obligation to do something but not an obligation to die or become seriously injured doing it. We do not owe that to the public. We owe them are best shot with the resources and training we possess, but us walking away from the incident.

The public has no right to expect that we will attempt a rescue on-duty without adequate resources or training. If I'm not trained in water rescue and not equipped for water rescue, it's not fair for the public to expect me to go into the water, as an example. I'll do what I can from shore with the resources on the truck to attempt a rescue, but no firefighter should be expected to go in-water, again as an example, unless they have been trained and equipped to do so. Same with confined space, technical rescue, collapse rescue, cave rescue or any other situation, including rescue from a fire when the resources just aren't there. Yes, I want to do what I can but my primary responsibility is to my family to come home after every single shift or call.

That's especially true when operating off-duty without PPE and resources. Sorry, but they got themsleves into the situation and it's not my responsbility to jeapordize my responsibility to my family to get them out of it. I'll do what I can as I have many, many times in the past, but at the end of the day, I am walking away. Call that cowardice. Call that selfish. Call that not in the traditions of the fire service but my family does come first.

I don't even know how to start this post so the hell with it, I'll jump right in.

LAFE is a spineless coward who won't lift a finger to help anyone, on or off duty, because he might break a nail, and he is such a selfish **** that the only person that matters is himself.

Junior22 is a fracking nutjob, who already thinks WAYYY too much of him/herself, and will not make it in the fire service due to his/her p iss poor attitude towards everyone.

Carry on. I expect a response from LAFE about how he doesn't believe in the need to save someone off duty. I also seem to remember a response where LAFE wasn't going to make any sort of interior attack if there weren't garbage cans at the house, or a vehicle in the driveway. Because GOD FORBID a child is home alone, or the car is parked in the garage.

What a freaking joke. This whole topic is a freaking joke.

It's not fair, it's not fair, it's not fair. YOU ARE A MUTT!!!

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Originally Posted by LaFireEducator

If I'm off-duty or out of my district the victim shouldn't be depending on me, or any other off-duty personnel.

What if I had been coming back from a praty and maybe had a couple of drinks? Not drunk at all but just a tad impaired. Still obligated to act in your mind? Or maybe bummed a shoulder a little bit the day before. Still obligated?

The fact is when somebody is off-duty, they are just that. If they choose to act, that's fine, but there is no obligation to act and likely they wiill have to personally deal with the concequences.

Again, sad to say but the victim got him/herself into the situation. Off-duty or out-of-district members are not responders. They are just plain folks who have a choice.

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Originally Posted by LaFireEducator

I feel an obligation to do something but not an obligation to die or become seriously injured doing it. We do not owe that to the public. We owe them are best shot with the resources and training we possess, but us walking away from the incident.

The public has no right to expect that we will attempt a rescue on-duty without adequate resources or training. If I'm not trained in water rescue and not equipped for water rescue, it's not fair for the public to expect me to go into the water, as an example. I'll do what I can from shore with the resources on the truck to attempt a rescue, but no firefighter should be expected to go in-water, again as an example, unless they have been trained and equipped to do so. Same with confined space, technical rescue, collapse rescue, cave rescue or any other situation, including rescue from a fire when the resources just aren't there. Yes, I want to do what I can but my primary responsibility is to my family to come home after every single shift or call.

That's especially true when operating off-duty without PPE and resources. Sorry, but they got themsleves into the situation and it's not my responsbility to jeapordize my responsibility to my family to get them out of it. I'll do what I can as I have many, many times in the past, but at the end of the day, I am walking away. Call that cowardice. Call that selfish. Call that not in the traditions of the fire service but my family does come first.

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Two of the finest pieces of bovine scatology I've ever read. I'm happy you weren't on my crew. We'd have sent you home with the just pumped the neighbor's cat look on your face.

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Originally Posted by Chenzo

I don't even know how to start this post so the hell with it, I'll jump right in.

LAFE is a spineless coward who won't lift a finger to help anyone, on or off duty, because he might break a nail, and he is such a selfish **** that the only person that matters is himself.

Junior22 is a fracking nutjob, who already thinks WAYYY too much of him/herself, and will not make it in the fire service due to his/her p iss poor attitude towards everyone.

Carry on. I expect a response from LAFE about how he doesn't believe in the need to save someone off duty. I also seem to remember a response where LAFE wasn't going to make any sort of interior attack if there weren't garbage cans at the house, or a vehicle in the driveway. Because GOD FORBID a child is home alone, or the car is parked in the garage.

What a freaking joke. This whole topic is a freaking joke.

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Yup. You're right.

Have a great night.