I'm getting a Pager?

[scfire86]

That's why you get trained a lot! Duh?

I'm retired junior. I can assure you I fought more fire than you and LAFE have seen on TV.

Run along.

[LaFireEducator]

I'm retired junior. I can assure you I fought more fire than you and LAFE have seen on TV.

Run along.

I sorta doubt that.

However, if that is your current tactic and the way you choose to debate, carry on.

[Junior22]

I'm retired junior. I can assure you I fought more fire than you and LAFE have seen on TV.

Run along.

If you can't play with the big dogs, run to the porch to play with the pups then.

[slackjawedyokel]

Juniors also ride in all apparatus code 3 during response. And a greater percentage of firefighters are killed in apparatus accidents than incidents involving vehicle fires. So I gues they shouldn't be responding code 3 in the apparatus either?

As far as the other crap, I was going to respond. Decided not worth the effort.

No,I dont think juniors should ride in the apparatus code 3 or cold. They come to the station either by an adult or drive when they are old enough.
Anf this crap about listening to a pager for 2 years so he will be ready---- come on - if you are that slow a learner . you will never be a fireman.

[slackjawedyokel]

If you can't play with the big dogs, run to the porch to play with the pups then.

We are playing with the pups there JUNIOR - and by your attitude , you are starting to sound like a muttpuppy.

[LaFireEducator]

No,I dont think juniors should ride in the apparatus code 3 or cold. They come to the station either by an adult or drive when they are old enough.
Anf this crap about listening to a pager for 2 years so he will be ready---- come on - if you are that slow a learner . you will never be a fireman.

If the departmet issues them a pager, that is a department level decsion. I'm sure they have a reason.

We disagree on juniors riding in a peice of apparatus hot. In both my current combo department as well as a couple of past volunteer departments they are a important part of the operation.

[scfire86]

I sorta doubt that.

However, if that is your current tactic and the way you choose to debate, carry on.

Especially since it is true. By your own admission your department receives very few fire calls. I can assure you over the course of my career I fought more fire of all types that go beyond anything you've seen on TV. According to the Bossier Parish FD website there were a whopping 61 calls for structure fires of all types in 2008. So yes, I feel very safe in saying my statement is accurate.

It's not a debate tactic. It's fact.

[scfire86]

If you can't play with the big dogs, run to the porch to play with the pups then.

Run along junior, I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.

[Junior22]

What ever you have to say scfire86

[LaFireEducator]

Especially since it is true. By your own admission your department receives very few fire calls. I can assure you over the course of my career I fought more fire of all types that go beyond anything you've seen on TV. According to the Bossier Parish FD website there were a whopping 61 calls for structure fires of all types in 2008. So yes, I feel very safe in saying my statement is accurate.

It's not a debate tactic. It's fact.

Not sure where you are getting your info as last year's run stats is on our website and those are not our numbers. And by the way, we only ran 5 structure fires last year, which is afact that I, and the department is actually quite proud of when compared to ther much higher number in neighboring districts.

Since I have taken over public education/prevention, our structure fires have dropped every year except for one.

Of course, you fail to take into account my 20 years plus in other much busier departments (in terms of structure fires) and places, but hey that's cool as comparing who is the biggest and baddest fireman isn't a game that I'm really interested in playing.

By the way, which district are you looking at as there are 9 within the parish plus the city? Our website is bpfd1.org.

When you want to debate facts let me know. Bottom line is this department has determined that juniors can respond to the scene with a specific sset of outlined duties including vehicle fire attack at a specified age, and they are not the only departments out there that have such policies. It works for them and in the end, that is really all that matters, even though you may disagree and decide that belittling what they do is the right thing to do.

[LaFireEducator]

What ever you have to say scfire86

Don't get into a battle with him. he isn't worth your time.

[Junior22]

Ok LA, I know what you mean. I meant to say to that previous URL I posted, on scene juniors only fill bottles, get equipment out,etc... But not attacking vehicle fires until 16 yrs old I think.

[FyredUp]

If this little puke junior doesn't shut the hell up and go lay down by his water dish I may rejoin this topic.

It appears I made a HUGE mistake apologizing for being rude. Honesly junior22 you are coming across like the wise a s s little ***** I initially assumed you were.

[scfire86]

Not sure where you are getting your info as last year's run stats is on our website and those are not our numbers. And by the way, we only ran 5 structure fires last year, which is afact that I, and the department is actually quite proud of when compared to ther much higher number in neighboring districts.

Thanks for proving my point. I've fought more fire than you've seen on TV. During the 80's it was common for us to have at least one structure fire per shift. Ten shifts per month.

I once had a shift where I opened three roofs in one day. And they were roofs that needed opening.


So you just proved my point that you stated you doubted.

When you want to debate facts let me know. Bottom line is this department has determined that juniors can respond to the scene with a specific sset of outlined duties including vehicle fire attack at a specified age, and they are not the only departments out there that have such policies. It works for them and in the end, that is really all that matters, even though you may disagree and decide that belittling what they do is the right thing to do.

I could care less about what other departments do with juniors. It's pathetic any FD would utilize for any type of firefighting operations.

[FWDbuff]

Since I have taken over public education/prevention, our structure fires have dropped every year except for one.

Right. Because the Citizens have seen you azzholes in action and think to themselves "I am royally fooked if I ever have a fire and have to call these retards to come and put it out."

[LaFireEducator]

Thanks for proving my point. I've fought more fire than you've seen on TV. During the 80's it was common for us to have at least one structure fire per shift. Ten shifts per month.

I once had a shift where I opened three roofs in one day. And they were roofs that needed opening.


So you just proved my point that you stated you doubted.

And as I said, it really doesn't matter that your community seemingly had a fire problem that required you to do so much firefighting.

Honestly, I wouldn't be too proud of that.


I could care less about what other departments do with juniors. It's pathetic any FD would utilize for any type of firefighting operations.

That's your opinion. I guess I'd rather see them being productive as compared to what some other 16 and 17 year-olds do with their time.

[ATFDFF]

I realize I'm not a regular on here.....but for ****'S SAKE, REALLY?!

This **** again? We just got done with 35 pages of it.

[rescue_1]

Well, I immediately regret opening this can of worms.

[scfire86]

That's your opinion. I guess I'd rather see them being productive as compared to what some other 16 and 17 year-olds do with their time.

I am very proud of my work putting them out.

Prove to us that prevention has actually prevented one fire.

You can't. It's really a bogus activity that could go away tomorrow and no one would know.

[LaFireEducator]

I realize I'm not a regular on here.....but for ****'S SAKE, REALLY?!

This **** again? We just got done with 35 pages of it.

I have no issues with departments that choose to under utilize junior personnel, and not going to criticize them for that choice.

I'm not the one that raised issues and criticized departments that choose to utilize juniors to a greater capacity like the one being discussed in this thread.