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    Hey guys,

    Just looking for some information. Our department is currently in the market for a new set of air bags. We currently have the Paratech base kit. While researching we came across the Sava Flat lifting bags. Anyone have any experiences with the new flat lifting bags from Sava or any other company? I am not too familiar with them and finding information has been difficult. Anyone have pros and cons between traditional bags and the "flat" bags?

    Thanks for your help!!

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    Yes...comment...look at the NT bags from ResQTec before you buy anything...it wont cost a thing to look and you can at last say you investigated.

    Flat bags are all basically the same... 116-118psi or the newer 145psi bags...all lift the same (determined by max pressure). Controllers and ease of use are the key things to look for.

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    Happy with both Paratech and Vetter bags myself. Honestly if you go with a major brand, not some fly-by-night company, they all operate the same and are of great quality.
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    NT's are NOT a 'Fly by night "bag. They are one of the only bags that can be taken apart,inspected and repaired. We looked at all of them and settled on NT's. They are round rather than square or rectangular. they can be "locked" together by way of a stainless steel connector. My advice: Try several brands under equal conditions and see what best fit your needs.

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    I don't consider Sava a "fly by night" company. We have seen them at numerous trade shows and such... anyone have any other opinnions on the company itself?

    Still trying to figure out what the advantages and disadvantages are from the Flat to regular lifting bags...

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    From what I can read and find... the Sava "flat bag" doesnt sound real "user friendly" http://www.savatrade.com/SavaSafetyM...BagsManual.pdf

    The NT system from ResQTec is the direction we went...and not sorry at the least. www.resqtec.com

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    We have the NT bags and While I like them I wish we also had some flat bags, maxi force or who ever. I like the ultra low profile of the flat bags v. the NT that need considerable space to place.

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    SAVA brand of flat bags are high pressure lifting bags that work just a little different than the bags we are used to. By their design, only the outer edges curl as the bag inflates. The entire center area of the bag is flat and remains flat while being used. The SAVA bag only goes up about 6 inches but with that flat center, the bag can exert full capacity of the bag from start to fully inflated. That is the selling point of anyone's brand of 'flat' bags. A typical high pressure airbag that inflates like a pillow as it is used will exert full capacity at the start of the lift and diminish it's lifting strength to approximately 50% of the rated capacity when the bag is fully inflated.

    SAVA stacks bags can also be stacked; two bags gives about 12 inches of lift, three bags gives 18 inches.

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    Another vote for Sava bags. Excellent quality and functionality. We had our local vendor demo them against our Vetter bags and we were extremely impressed. All they do is make bags. Their parent company makes air bags for all sorts of applications and the quality is top notch. We were sold and will be going with them in the next two years.

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    Just on the update. We ended up going with the Sava lifting bags. We got a wide array of both "conventional" and "flat" lifting bags. We have had them in service for a couple of months now and are very pelased with them. THeir ease of use and customer service was two big factors. I speak very highly of the product that we recieved.

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    maybe a little off topic -but am I the only one uncomfortable with stacking up 3 bags ?
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    With the flat bags 3 is very sturdy.. I can speak for the Sava's and with 3 bags stacked I can stand and even jump up and down on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackjawedyokel View Post
    maybe a little off topic -but am I the only one uncomfortable with stacking up 3 bags ?
    Ditto. One word; CRIBBING. It's way cheaper and more reliable than any brand of airbag.

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    We replaced the bags on our truck last year with sava flat lifting bags. I've used them multiple times in several different situations from extrication to trench rescue. These bags are extremely stable, even when stacking 2 together. I personally wouldn't use more than 2 stacked. Just crib and keep going. Even though these are less "rounded "than most bags, wood is cheap.. Crib. Air bags is sava's forte. That's mostly all they do... We have zero complaints thus far.
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