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09-01-2012, 02:57 AM #41
09-01-2012, 09:03 AM #42
from mr d himself....
My firefighting career started when I was a Sr. in high school in 1999. I joined as a Jr firefighter along with my GF at the time on her uncles department. When she and I split up, I left the department and joined another closer to me. After I graduated, I joined the Air Force. 2 weeks into basic I was injured and discharged. I moved around a bit and tried to join departments in the areas I lived, but none had any openings. I recently moved back to this area and rejoined my old department again.
Easily matches up to Vinnie's knowledge/experience...."This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?
09-01-2012, 09:13 AM #43
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Well, let me explain to you how a good department works.
People are assigned jobs and task. They are put into teams. Upon arrival those teams go into action. One team (could be 2 people or 4) does a walk around. So no one else needs to worry about that task, they can concentrate on another job. Such as the team that pulls and runs lines and prepares to start water flow. You also have a team securing the scene making sure all looky-loos are a safe distance. Ever heard the saying "Many hands make lite work."
WHO THE HELL said none of that took place? This is why you are an *** hole. You twist things to make it work for you. ALL I said is we have teams that do jobs. I mentioned a few of those jobs including that one was a team to block off the area. Jesus Christ your thick.
Ok, 13 years I don't count 1999 as it was Jr Firefighter.
And if he is so knowledgeable/experienced then he would not have any problems understanding the point of fire scene safety and control. Heck, maybe he does but just wants to come here and be a ****** bag.
Wait, let me take a wild guess. you are posting that to try and say that I have not been active during that time right? Yeah I figured. Well, since this site needs things spelled out for them let me do so for you.
I moved around but still within this county, which is rather small. I was still active on the same department and attended calls (mostly mutual aid which is common here). When I moved back to this area (this side of town closer to the station) I rejoined it as my "local station".
What the hell kind of departments do you guys belong to that you don't understand this stuff? Are you telling me that if you are part of XYZ department on the west side of town, then you move to a house on the east side, that you can no longer be a member of XYZ? What a way to keep people active and interested. Hell departments around here have members that even live across the state line. most members around here are also on multiple departments. This is how teamwork works.
Oh but we are just a small town rural area of volunteers. We are not paid so we don't know anything.
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09-01-2012, 09:44 AM #44
I am assuming you missed the part where Vinnie told you where he works. You are making yourself look like an idiot. Your disputible "13 years" in the fire service does not come close to 13 months in his department.
Being as you have all of these "teams" initially running around your fire scene, what do you guys respond in? A bus? Look at any urban, suburban or rural department who assigns riding positions. I promise you won't find Street Blocker Guy on the chalk board anywhere. This concept is so comical that I am now convinced you are a troll.
Oh and thanks for taking the Backdraft quote down. It wasn't correct anyway.
09-01-2012, 10:48 AM #45
Sometimes it works the other way. Big problem I had when I got to this department, was not having a hydrant to catch. Anywhere. But I was shown and now I show rural water.
Sometimes we have people from either side blabbering about something that they obviously no clue about. This is clearly one of those cases.
WAIT! I GOT IT GUYS.
His department does not know what to do with him at a scene. He is "that" guy. No one wants to work with Mr D, so they found a job that he is fully capable of doing, and he does not have to interact with the rest of the department.
I can see it now. You , Mr D - You go and.... Uh..... Shut the street down. Stay there and make sure it stays shut down. I will come get you when us firefighters are done"
09-01-2012, 10:54 AM #46
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09-01-2012, 11:51 AM #47
One in four people is crazy. If your three immediate friends seem normal, then it's you.
09-01-2012, 12:08 PM #48
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- Poconos, Pa
09-01-2012, 12:17 PM #49
Waitasecond......So....when your teams arrive....instead of actually helping pull lines, ladder the building, securing a water source....2 to 4 people go for a walk????
Is up to 8 pairs of eyes helping make "lite work" of a sizeup as opposed to helping with the actual physical part of the job?
You're the one with the two sticks. One on your shoulder and the other firmly up your arse.
09-01-2012, 12:26 PM #50
Mr D, just quit. The more you try to make Vinnie (an experienced fireman in the largest department in US) look bad, you make yourself look completely foolish. Seriously, you're so close minded to what everyone else is saying that you appear to look like a complete idiot.
As it was said before, Vinnie has, and will, do more in a few months than you will in your entire fire service career. I envy the real-world experience that he gets, but am glad he's willing to share his lessons with us so we can do the right thing and go back and educate our peers to keep 'em safe.
One of the things that I think that you forget that this forum is made up of career, volunteer, and on-paid-on-call members who serve from NYC to the flats of the midwest. We collectively share our experiences and learn from each other. Yet you seem to think you can come on here and enlighten us with stories, anecdotes, and "lessons" that we know are so ridiculous we can't help but call you out on it rather than look the other way.
You live in a county of 25,000 spread over 455 square miles. How many fires are you responding to annually?Career Fire Captain
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09-01-2012, 01:07 PM #51
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Do you think if we painted all the apparatus a dull grey , took off all the lights and sirens, MAYBE the fire service would quit attracting all of these "special" people ??
09-01-2012, 01:09 PM #52
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Weeeellllll anyway, as far as I'm concerned, I don't give a damn about any inconvience to civilians. We own the scene and as much real estate around it as we need. It's not just about backdrafts, it's about some moron running over a firefighter stretching a line or doing a sizeup. Every car ever made in the last 50+ years has a reverse gear. Firefighter safety is the number 1 reason to block off a scene. And the scene in the original run which started this thread was ORDERED blocked by the incident commander.
This was about a cop doing a stupid thing, and it turned into an LA type ****ing match amongst firefighters. Vinnie, you may be all that, but dude this is still the internet. Chest thumping is kind of a waste here, just let your actions on the job speak for yourself. D, I get your point, it's just kinda out there.
09-01-2012, 01:10 PM #53
How many fires occur in Culberson or the Murphy NC area each day, week or year?
Home many calls for service does your department make a year?
How many incidents resulted in a back draft?
Have you actually seen a back draft or flashover, other than in a movie, or on YouTube?
Where were you a member of a career department and for how long?
You stated that you were in the Air Force but didn't stay long and was discharged. What is an honorable, dis-honorable, medical an undesirable type discharge?
As other have said most these members have a long heritage of firefighting in their life and family. They know when the bs is spewed and when someone isn't creditable.
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09-01-2012, 01:27 PM #54
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- Jun 2002
- Glenn Dale Md, Heart of the P.G. County Fire Belt....
Ya Know, times change, and folks move on to something else....... I used to be on here more in one day than I am now in a Month. But, I've just realized that I've been missing out on a lot. Among other things, the return of Scarecrow....... No, I don't know much about Backdrafts, Smoke Explosions, BLEVEs, Overpressure Failures, and all those Hazards of our Job. I do know that for the sake of Efficiency, we park our Apparatus near the Fire. In seeking a good location, our Box Alarm fills the Street near the Fire. We don't close the street, but there isn't room for a Bike to get thru either..... Note the irony dripping from my remarks so far.......
OK, here's the Scoop. Maryland Law states that no one can operate a Vehicle within 500 feet of an Emergency, and/or that no one may drive a vehicle over a Fire Hose in the Roadway. We have the Right to enforce this, BUT, common sense should prevail. We try to work things out to minimize any disruption to traffic, but Safety of our own is the First priority. Second, (I'm Bragging on this one) We have a relationship with the Police that is the Best. No Question. Finding a Police Officer at our place is normal. We basiclly treat them like part of the team, they can wash their cars, use the phone, do reports, get Coffee, same as we do. From time to time they even bring us donuts. Because of this, we simply do not have any problems.......Never use Force! Get a Bigger Hammer.
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09-01-2012, 02:19 PM #55
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09-01-2012, 04:22 PM #57
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Around here, we actually have to WORK to arrive to a call, work harder to size up a scene, and then the fun starts to attack and contain the fire.
Not sure what the hell that has to do with anything?
09-01-2012, 04:27 PM #58
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Skippy - how can you type that with a straight face ? Ill give you credit , you must have had to studied hard to come up with something that stupid.?
09-01-2012, 04:33 PM #59
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Gotta ask this too there skippy -if you guys are cross trained AKA masters of all ------ why in the black helmet thread do you talk about interior firefighters ? quote (We don't use coats to distinguish since all our stuff is donated 'cept for the interior guys. They get brand new gear. I was just issued newer stuff to replace my older gear.) -?
09-01-2012, 04:36 PM #60
Perhaps those departments used a psychiatric exam? And the one back home did not?
And he is a member of the vent crew. What happens if they don't show up on a fire? Does the walkaround the block crew take over? Or the traffic crew? What about the "put a shine on the stainless crew"
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