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    Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it. The practice test seems to only reference the CEB portion of the test. Where it discuess the WSI portion it states "There is no preparation for the WSI". It says the WSI measures perosnality traits. The CEB measures reading ability, mathmattecial reasoning, and interpersonal competencies.

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    For people who are curious about whether to test or not go back and read my comments on this thread. If you already have a career job your wasting your time coming here. If you Dont have a paid job then youd be stupid not to test.

    But be warned, everything the RFD does is based off of diversity. Hiring, station assignments, crew assignments, promotions, commititees, all based on cultural diversity. We just promoted 4 white male Lts and thats because the chief already had promoted all the available miniorities on the list.

    do your homework.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFD995 View Post
    If you already have a career job your wasting your time coming here.
    Mind if I ask why? Also, what is their retirement like?

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    PPH,

    I was definitely going to test, as RFD is aggressive but the big thing for me was benefits. Retirement sounded good but the kicker is the guys on the line are paying 700 a month for medical insurance and they haven't had raises in like 5 or 6 years. That quote came directly from the lady at human resources and she was quoting for a member with family. Good luck in your decision. RFD thanks for commenting on the thread.

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    So what I'm seeing from various threads and different sources are:

    1. Low pay, no raises in years.
    2. High medical premiums
    3. Aggressive department
    4. Promotions are based around race
    5. Low morale

    Does anyone else want to chime in more in depth here? I'm testing and committing regardless, I just want to know more about the department.

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    So applicants did receive emails? I didn't seem to get one and ckd spam however my govjobs acct says I'm scheduled for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve929 View Post
    So applicants did receive emails? I didn't seem to get one and ckd spam however my govjobs acct says I'm scheduled for this one.
    The email the city sends you congratulates the acceptance of your application and links you to this:

    http://library.constantcontact.com/d....2012FINAl.pdf


    Keep in mind, I'm scheduled for the morning. Make sure to check your specific test time.

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    Thank you sir!

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    How'd the test go for everyone?

    The test proctor stated there were 3076 applicants.
    The department seeks to start a recruit class of 18 in late April. No word of any other hiring needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegajuarez View Post
    How'd the test go for everyone?

    The test proctor stated there were 3076 applicants.
    The department seeks to start a recruit class of 18 in late April. No word of any other hiring needs.
    I felt good about the test, but you never know with those personality sections. Also, just thought it was worth noting, the BC said that 3076 applied, but only around 1200 -1300 took the test. Not bad odds for getting an interview if they take 300 like the last test in 2009.

    How'd everyone else feel the test went? Does any one know how they will grade the WSI portion of the test? I saw the gave a percentage breakdown for the CEB, but nothing for the WSI.
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    How did everyone answer the most/least appropriate questions, pretty much the choices came down to do/say nothing, talk to the person, talk to other people or rat to the chief. I just wasnt sure what would be the best answer they were looking for?

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    I feel pretty good about the exam...I was very surprised to hear about the amount of applicants that didn't show up. But, thats good for the rest of us. I was surprised by the amount of personality questions and lack of math/writing! I'm not sure how the questions are graded either, guess we'll find out soon enough. 18 out of 1200 really isn't bad odds compared to some other places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck4502 View Post
    I feel pretty good about the exam...I was very surprised to hear about the amount of applicants that didn't show up. But, thats good for the rest of us. I was surprised by the amount of personality questions and lack of math/writing! I'm not sure how the questions are graded either, guess we'll find out soon enough. 18 out of 1200 really isn't bad odds compared to some other places.
    Was there only 1200 test takers? I took the morning session so I have no idea how many tested in the afternoon.


    Also, what does everyone's application status read on government jobs? Mine still says "test scheduled".
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegajuarez View Post
    Was there only 1200 test takers? I took the morning session so I have no idea how many tested in the afternoon.


    Also, what does everyone's application status read on government jobs?
    Yeah, they said in the afternoon session that just over 1200 people showed up (500'ish in the morning and 600'ish in the afternoon)

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    While you applied for this test, did any of the testers visit any of the houses and talk to the members to see what the city and the fire department is all about?


    The current administration is for minorities and will fill vacancies with them if at all possible. They did make 6 non minorities, white men, officers, only because the vacancies existed and the needed to fill these position to hire for their vacancies.


    Look around and you'll see members leaving going to other departments within the state to have better jobs and working conditions. Richmond hasn't given any raises for several years and cut out merit step increases years back.


    No, I don't have an axe to grind. I am not or have not been a member of the department, which at one time, was the finest and best ran in the Commonwealth. I retired for a department in the northern part of the Commonwealth, but have a lot of ties with members in Richmond.


    Don't take my word for it. Talk to the members, the Local, and other who have served the city.
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    My status on NEOGOV is still test scheduled. They said we would hear something back in about 2 weeks. Fingers crossed im picked to go to the interview phase!! I find it very discouraging that they are so quick to hire minorities over experience, ill admit being a female I am hoping for that to give me some edge. Best of luck everyone!! Btw did anyone from the morning test notice that they locked the doors at 0730 instead of 0800??

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    My status on NEOGOV is still test scheduled. They said we would hear something back in about 2 weeks. Fingers crossed im picked to go to the interview phase!! I find it very discouraging that they are so quick to hire minorities over experience, ill admit being a female I am hoping for that to give me some edge Best of luck everyone!! Btw did anyone from the morning test notice that they locked the doors at 0730 instead of 0800??

    I bolded that because in a truly merit run society, the only edge you have is your experience and score not your gender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_Reverse View Post
    My status on NEOGOV is still test scheduled. They said we would hear something back in about 2 weeks. Fingers crossed im picked to go to the interview phase!! I find it very discouraging that they are so quick to hire minorities over experience, ill admit being a female I am hoping for that to give me some edge Best of luck everyone!! Btw did anyone from the morning test notice that they locked the doors at 0730 instead of 0800??

    I bolded that because in a truly merit run society, the only edge you have is your experience and score not your gender.
    The problem with having absolutely no diversity, especially in government, is that it creates an organization that is out of touch with its community. While I do applaud Richmond for emphasizing the importance of diversity, it is kind of silly to make it the #1 priority in hiring and promoting needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegajuarez View Post
    The problem with having absolutely no diversity, especially in government, is that it creates an organization that is out of touch with its community. While I do applaud Richmond for emphasizing the importance of diversity, it is kind of silly to make it the #1 priority in hiring and promoting needs.
    In order to reflect the best of its community, it needs the best regardless of community. Government has more diversity than most private industry outside of entry level jobs its certain departments inside government that while not reflecting the community should not be held to do so in order to reflect the best of its community. The fairest system is the merit system and that is something that can never be out of touch with society since it has been used in society for ages before the modern error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_Reverse View Post
    In order to reflect the best of its community, it needs the best regardless of community. Government has more diversity than most private industry outside of entry level jobs its certain departments inside government that while not reflecting the community should not be held to do so in order to reflect the best of its community. The fairest system is the merit system and that is something that can never be out of touch with society since it has been used in society for ages before the modern error.
    Exactly, " doesnt reflect the community". how about you have the best and most qualified person in the position. It doesn't matter what race or gender you are if you are the most qualified and can actually perform the job you are hired to do then you should get the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugsley67 View Post
    Exactly, " doesnt reflect the community". how about you have the best and most qualified person in the position. It doesn't matter what race or gender you are if you are the most qualified and can actually perform the job you are hired to do then you should get the job.
    You can be the best qualified white fire fighting male in the city, but its not going to help you when your trying to communicate with a Hispanic family that doesn't speak English trying to tell you where their infant daughter is trapped in a building. Maybe you'll encounter a black family who really doesn't trust a white guy handling her kids.

    In positions where there is such a crucial emphasis on effective communication with a diverse population (firefighters and police especially), it is necessary to have a diverse organization to better protect and serve.

    I'll state it again however, it is silly to make diversification a number 1 hiring/promoting priority, its just a factor an organization should keep in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegajuarez View Post
    You can be the best qualified white fire fighting male in the city, but its not going to help you when your trying to communicate with a Hispanic family that doesn't speak English trying to tell you where their infant daughter is trapped in a building. Maybe you'll encounter a black family who really doesn't trust a white guy handling her kids.

    In positions where there is such a crucial emphasis on effective communication with a diverse population (firefighters and police especially), it is necessary to have a diverse organization to better protect and serve.

    I'll state it again however, it is silly to make diversification a number 1 hiring/promoting priority, its just a factor an organization should keep in mind.
    Did not know this was the year 1967 where everyone thinks the white male is trying to keep them down. This is 2013 and if tradgedy strikes as a white male I don't really care who saves me or my family just that they will. Hate to say it but the language barrier is also overcome by tragedy or intense stiuations. If you still believe a PD or FD should reflect the community it serves then why are most city workers in social services a certain race when social services is all races. It should not be a factor in a society that has a black president, female pilots, male secretaries, and great people of all races. If you want the job you want the job you're gender, race, religion, or culture should not have anything to do with it, and if you believe it does then you're part of the problem of why we cannot move foward as a nation no matter what side of those aforementioned fences you are on. Because last time I helped someone, they didn't care I was white, they cared that I was right. Two different extremes.
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    Top 139 got called for an interview. Anyone else hear anything?

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    Did the top 139 get phone calls, or emails? Do you know if they are done calling everyone?

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    A friend of mine called HR yesterday and they told him replys were going to be made by email only. No phone calls were going to be made.

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