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    I don't know if anyones listing, But the FDNY is getting it handed to them, I give them allot of credit, Their fighting some crazy fire's going on, never mind the flooding... Multiple 2+ Alarm fires, Multiple blocks on fire at a time, it does not sound good...Stay safe out there brothers, Listing in from NEPA, Were getting nailed, but nothing like this...
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    I was listening last night- dont forget the female dispatcher that was working her tail off.
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    I'm curious on how they addressed staffing. I know they have day/night tours, do they recall all available personnel and just work through the night? How many reserve apparatus do they have?

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    Go follow both "FDNY Incidents" and "The New York City Firefighter Brotherhood Foundation" pages for the most current updates. Multiple calls last night with no units available to respond.
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    There was crews risking their lives just to get to a scene to risk their lives...I'm truly inspired by their actions... Fire, ems, police, volleys out in broad channel... Makes me proud to call myself an American..

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    My Thoughts and Prayers are with FDNY.... we went through similar with the riots in London in August '11 (without the bad weather thrown in to the mix)... Over 30 major fires across London with constant calls for available units. Having several times over that weekend been an Incident Commander on scene having to release half of the attandance to go to other fires when what I had was hardly enough to do the job.... but we got there and I have no doubt FDNY will prevail as their rich history and tradition dictates.

    Not forgetting all of the other responders across the NE USA doing their bit over these couple of days.
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    Does anyone know if the Point Breeze VFD apparatus or station was lost in the fire or flood?

    I think that Roxbury VFD is right down the road. Any word on damage there?

    In addition West Hamiliton Beach, Aviation Hose and Geriitton Beach VFDs are out near the shore as well. Anybody hear anything on how they fared?
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    Not sure on the ones you mentioned, but Broad Channel lost an engine at Breezy Point. FDNY also more than likely lost the ATRV from 329's as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    Not sure on the ones you mentioned, but Broad Channel lost an engine at Breezy Point. FDNY also more than likely lost the ATRV from 329's as well.
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    I have been doing some research today in between projects and it seems like neither Point Breeze or Roxbury lost stations or engines, but they did have 4'-5' of water in thier stations.

    I knew that broad Channel came in but didn't know they lost an engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    I have been doing some research today in between projects and it seems like neither Point Breeze or Roxbury lost stations or engines, but they did have 4'-5' of water in thier stations.

    I knew that broad Channel came in but didn't know they lost an engine.
    My former chief served with broad channel for many years and regularly goes back to visit.. They lost the yellow Hahn, both ambulances and a chiefs vehicle I believe... They still have 1 engine. They had a dwelling fire with entrapment..durring the storm.. Don't know if the Hahn burnt at the call..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGriffC12 View Post
    My former chief served with broad channel for many years and regularly goes back to visit.. They lost the yellow Hahn, both ambulances and a chiefs vehicle I believe... They still have 1 engine. They had a dwelling fire with entrapment..durring the storm.. Don't know if the Hahn burnt at the call..
    Hopefully they'll be able to replace the apparatus with insurance, or maybe donations.

    That Hahn looked like a very nice truck in pictures.
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    Does anyone have contact info for Broad Channel???.....I have an out of state Dept looking to contact someone there ASAP.

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    My former chief served with broad channel for many years and regularly goes back to visit.. They lost the yellow Hahn, both ambulances and a chiefs vehicle I believe... They still have 1 engine. They had a dwelling fire with entrapment..durring the storm.. Don't know if the Hahn burnt at the call..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasobuff View Post
    Does anyone have contact info for Broad Channel???.....I have an out of state Dept looking to contact someone there ASAP.
    This was shared by a Facebook friend of mine. It comes from the National Firefighters Endowment, and I presume it's accurate.


    We have been in contact with Broad Channel Volunteers (BCVFD), who was slammed by Hurricane Sandy. They lost 2 ambulances and 2 fire trucks as well as the contents of their station under 5 feet of saltwater. If you want to help, here is you
    r chance! At a minimum, please share this post.

    Needs:
    Manpower: help clear the roads of debris. Come to the station at
    Broad Channel Volunteer Fire Department
    15 Noel Road
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    contact Scott Batagglia "sbattaglia@broadchannelvfd.org"

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    Immediate needs are a loaner ambulance (fully stocked)
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    THANKS! Contact has been made.....

    Quote Originally Posted by EastKyFF View Post
    This was shared by a Facebook friend of mine. It comes from the National Firefighters Endowment, and I presume it's accurate.


    We have been in contact with Broad Channel Volunteers (BCVFD), who was slammed by Hurricane Sandy. They lost 2 ambulances and 2 fire trucks as well as the contents of their station under 5 feet of saltwater. If you want to help, here is you
    r chance! At a minimum, please share this post.

    Needs:
    Manpower: help clear the roads of debris. Come to the station at
    Broad Channel Volunteer Fire Department
    15 Noel Road
    Broad Channel, NY 11693
    contact Scott Batagglia "sbattaglia@broadchannelvfd.org"

    Equipment: Contact National Firefighters Endowment @ 9165721502
    Immediate needs are a loaner ambulance (fully stocked)
    Scott airpacks (qty10)
    saws & jaws

    Money:
    Please donate today, anything helps/100% helps. http://www.thethinredline.org/donate...lief-fund.html

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    Many FDNY rigs and houses are damaged including a few EMS stations. I was in Breezy twice, once responding and just today helping out. The water table is so high and drains full of sand, that water can not recede. I couldnt pump out a basement because water from the ocean was just being replaced by what I was pumping out...our other fear was that pumping too much water too fast could collapse the block basement...so we stopped and just clean out furniture and cut fences.

    As for the fire....well...you've seen the pics. Staten Island, Gerritson beach, and coney island all took beatings
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinnieB View Post
    Many FDNY rigs and houses are damaged including a few EMS stations. I was in Breezy twice, once responding and just today helping out. The water table is so high and drains full of sand, that water can not recede. I couldnt pump out a basement because water from the ocean was just being replaced by what I was pumping out...our other fear was that pumping too much water too fast could collapse the block basement...so we stopped and just clean out furniture and cut fences.

    As for the fire....well...you've seen the pics. Staten Island, Gerritson beach, and coney island all took beatings
    Be safe!! God be with you all.

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    Any word if Broad Channel has gotten back into operation yet with a donated piece?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Any word if Broad Channel has gotten back into operation yet with a donated piece?
    A department from Minnesota, I believe, was in contact with them regarding a donation - I do not know the status of that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasobuff View Post
    A department from Minnesota, I believe, was in contact with them regarding a donation - I do not know the status of that though.

    The engine is enroute on a truck at this time from MN

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    Very, very good.
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    I have 20 sets of structural PPE that should be heading that way soon via the Terry Ferrell Georgia Chapter sitting in the bay right now.
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    I believe Breezy Point VFD lost all their apparatus'. They didn't have standard engines like most places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeightsFF View Post
    I believe Breezy Point VFD lost all their apparatus'. They didn't have standard engines like most places.
    Thier apparatus were unique.

    I hope that they were covered by enough insurance to replace at least one piece.
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    Found this interesting article about that night and the three VFDs out on the point.



    Wind, flames, Our Fathers: The inside story of Breezy Point's terrible night


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    BREEZY POINT, N.Y. — As Hurricane Sandy turned the streets of this community into raging rivers on Monday evening, one company of volunteer firefighters ditched their rescue boats and sought refuge in the community center. Inside they found another bunch of volunteer firefighters, also stranded by rising water, who asked, "Are you here to rescue us?"

    That was shortly before 70-mph winds blew embers the size of baseballs through the heart of this close-knit community on the Rockaway Peninsula in New York City’s Queens borough.

    In a community where firefighters are demigods, where a memorial at the end of the point honors more than 30 residents who lost their lives at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, three companies of volunteer firefighters were overwhelmed by flooding and an inferno that destroyed more than 100 houses. Yet they fought the elements all night, saving many people and protecting houses on the perimeter of the burn zone, including the home of a 9/11 widow.

    The Rockaway Point Fire Department, one of three volunteer fire houses in Breezy Point, was unable to get its flooded trucks running during the storm. The men took to boats to pull people from the water.

    When the water hit about 5:30 p.m., quickly disabling the fire engines and ambulances of the Rockaway Point Fire Department, its volunteers abandoned their firehouse. But when a call came in to rescue a wheelchair-bound elderly woman trapped in a flooded house, Lt. Jimmy Morton and four of his men put on their wetsuits and headed out in two motorboats — a 14-foot inflatable Zodiac and a 15-foot fiberglass Wheeler, steaming up the road into a hurricane.

    Breezy Point residents search for the past, look to the future


    The Breezy Point peninsula was inundated, the waters of the Atlantic Ocean merging with the waters of Jamaica Bay. Electrical transformers arced and sparked in the sky. Streets were disjointed as entire blocks of houses were shifted off their foundations. The winds blew 3-foot waves into the boats. Debris wrapped around the propellers. Finally they had to turn back, ditching their boats at the community center, crawling up a ladder and through a window to safety. They still don’t know what happened to the woman in the wheelchair.

    Inside the community center, known as the Clubhouse, the Rockaway Point crew found 20 firefighters from the Point Breeze Volunteer Fire Department, who had abandoned their own firehouse next door when it flooded. They were tending to about 20 people, mostly elderly and disabled. All were huddled on a stage where schoolchildren usually put on summer plays, with rising water lapping just a few inches below the lip of the stage.


    The Point Breeze fire chief, Marty Ingram, a retired Air Force helicopter pilot, had just finished leading the group in a prayer, an Our Father in the candlelight, when the Rockaway Point firefighters arrived.

    A glow in the sky
    "I was scared. We all were," Ingram said. "I told everyone, ‘We're beach people. Just imagine it's a summer day and you're standing in three feet of water at the beach, and relax.’" Afraid they would drown when water got higher than the windows, blocking escape, Ingram decided that if the water reached two inches on the stage, the men would take down the Christmas lights strung across the ceiling and use them as a rope line to try to cross the rapidly flowing Point Breeze Avenue to reach a two-story house. He finished a second Our Father, when everyone agreed the water might have receded a little bit.


    It was about 8:30, just before high tide, when they first noticed a glow in the sky.

    Breezy Point: 'Whatever is not flooded is on fire'

    Glenn Serafin had been one of the first to see the flames, near his home on Atlantic Avenue, on the ocean side of town in the knotted area of tightly grouped houses known as the Wedge, where the streets are as wide as sidewalks, the lots only 20 by 43 feet, the houses seven to 10 paces wide. He had been tending his pump, ignoring repeated phone calls from the community safety office insisting that everyone evacuate. He was expecting a few feet of water in his basement, as had happened in previous hurricanes, but he allows that "my thinking was flawed." He took a nap about 6:30 p.m., but was awakened by water in his basement, which had risen neck high. Then the electrical outlets started popping from the salt water, and he heard the rush of water moving up the street.

    Then, after 8 o'clock, out his back window, he spotted the fire, in one of the bungalows behind the larger beachfront house of Rep. Bob Turner (who got his job after Anthony Weiner lost his for sending nude photos and risque text messages). The fire leaped to the congressman's house, then to the house next door, where an older lady has kept a parrot for 50 years, the one that entertains children by repeating some choice words it learned from her dockworker husband. Then it jumped again and again, driven by the powerful southeast wind. The phones were out. The cell phones were out. Serafin used a garden hose and a margarita pitcher to throw water on his plastic storm shutters.

    Everyone knows everyone in the Wedge, often hanging out together at the Sugar Bowl beachfront bar. When a friend once asked Serafin, ‘Do you know Alice” he replied, “Oh, yes. She's my wife's brother's wife's brother's wife."

    The people here own the houses, but not the land. They live in a gated co-op, some here full time, but most, like Serafin, staying mainly in the summer. A bungalow sells for $350,000, a larger house up to $800,000 or a million in the overheated New York real estate market, but these are mostly middle-class families, heavily Irish-Catholic, enjoying a unique community nicknamed the Irish Riviera. The cars pushed around by the waves carried window stickers from Holy Cross and Georgetown. At the end of each block, the water lapped over yard shrines to Mary and Joseph.

    At the swamped Clubhouse, the firefighters could see a firestorm of embers driven by the winds, a volcano erupting toward them in a hurricane. The smoke drove more people out of their houses, even those who had been safe on second floors.
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    Across a flooded parking lot, Jack O'Meara and his wife, Aileen, were waving flashlights to alert the firefighters. The men from Rockaway got back into their boats, dodging concrete flower pots in the streets. These men — Michael Valentine, Brandon Reilly, Brian Doyle, Michael Kahlau and Jimmy Morton — went back and forth, pulling in family after family, including the O'Mearas, along with their grown children, John and Trish, and their two cats, Leon and Bright. The firefighters plucked more people abandoning Olive Walk ("Life is good," the sign says) and Roosevelt Walk ("walk softly").

    Now the firefighters were worried about embers setting fire to the wooden roof of the Clubhouse, which was starting to fill with smoke. After a third Our Father, they returned to the Point Breeze firehouse and were finally able to get their fire engines started. They began using them to ferry the waterlogged band at the Clubhouse to a more-secure shelter at the flood-damaged St. Thomas More Roman Catholic Church.

    The community's third company of volunteers, 10 men from the Volunteer Fire Department of Roxbury at the other end of the point, also saw the glow from the fire, but they, too, were in no position to respond. They were on the second floor of their firehouse, driven upstairs by the flood. Their fire trucks sat in four feet of water. All the radios were down, the phones dead. Only when the water went down a couple of feet could they drive to the fire.

    A fire marshal whose home is in the Wedge, Kieran Burke, said it was about an hour, after he first saw the glow and smoke, before anyone began fighting the fire. Even then, until about 11 p.m., he said, there was only one hose directed at it.

    Slideshow: Sandy slams East Coast

    The assistant chief on scene from the New York Fire Department, Joseph Pfeifer, the same first chief to arrive at the World Trade Center on 9/11, said the department came as soon as it was called, though travel on the peninsula was slow in the high water. The timetable will be sorted out in the investigation, but Pfeifer said what's sure is that the city firefighters found an inferno, with at least 20 homes ablaze by the time they arrived. Telephone poles were on fire. Sinkholes opened up in the sandy soil, swallowing cars. Hydrants were hard to find under the seawater and had no water pressure, so the men "drafted" ocean water. Through six alarms, with nearly 300 firefighters working until mid-day Tuesday, they were able to do little more than hold the edges of the fire.
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    Holding the line at a widow's home
    The volunteers from Point Breeze rode to the fire in the bucket of a payloader tractor, fighting alongside the Rockaway volunteers and the paid professionals until 5 in the morning. At one point they worked especially hard to save a large tan house facing the ocean. That's Sheila Scandole's house. Her husband, Robert, was a stock trader with Cantor Fitzgerald who died at the World Trade Center, and they both grew up in Breezy Point.

    Slideshow: Surviving Sandy, twice

    When the sun came up, the Sugar Bowl bar was gone. Kieran Burke's home was down, too, in the middle of a charred landscape the size of two football fields. Firefighters went house by house through the community, but so far found no one dead. The congressman's house was down, its white metal railing decorating a clump of debris at the edge of the burn zone. No one was quite sure what happened to the parrot next door. (Update: The parrot seems to have been rescued by an off-duty firefighter.)

    But the house of Sheila Scandole, the 9/11 widow, remained, scarred but standing, staring out at the beach and the calming Atlantic Ocean beyond.
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    As bad as FDNY was with the big fire in Queens, many areas of NJ are still recovering, especially the Jersey Shore area. And I don't just mean Snooki's home, I mean the entire coast line from AC to Jersey City was under several feet of water.

    Entire towns were completely destroyed, firehouses were flooded, many homes destroyed, some are still without power. They still have gas leaks that are causing major fires.

    NYC got hit hard, NJ got hit even harder, especially the island cities in Hudson County, and any place that has a river (much of Bergen, union, Middlesex, Monmouth and Ocean Counties). Long Island is in the same boat
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