I wonder if they will turn away non-union firefighters too?
I wonder if they will turn away non-union firefighters too?
Just amazing. I believe any future contract the utilities make should stipulate that this is not permissible in times of disaster declarations or states of emergency. But that would probably never make it through.
I laugh at Breitbart. They are critical of the president. From what I can tell, he had zero input in this decision. The Governor should have no problem making that call if they believe these relief workers were needed.
That would ring true if there was one rescuer for every three people. What are the ratios there? I don't have a clue, I'm thinking 1:1000 maybe? If something happened here like that, we would not be able to reach everyone in that time.Quote:
This is the United States of America in 2012. There is NO reason why 72 hours after the storm hit that ANYONE should be going without help.
If I am reading the Federal Authorities for Disaster Response correctly, the authoritative director, most likely DHS, has the authority to suspend contracts and direct resources as needed. There are interstate agreements for this under energy trading also in events of natural disasters. Its like our mutual aid agreements, if you are called go whether union or not. The Union in this case does not have a right to turn workers away. But whose responsibility is it to mitigate this situation? Is it the President's. Governor's, FEMA Director's, Energy Secretary's? No one really knows. I would almost venture to say if it had been Wednesday next week when this occurred this would not even be a discussion because those people would be working.
As for not providing help/aid to people, I am not sure but take the lady in the video for instance. There was a mandatory evacuation ordered. She chose to stay. She still chooses to stay. How many people decided that? They offer shelter, food and water but she chooses not to go. What do you do? I know there was a lot in the news is telling the truth. Chris Christie ordered it. Now who do you help first because unfortunately decision like that must be made in a situation this severe because there simply is not enough people and logistics are extremely difficult.
I would bet the emergency workers are working as hard as they can. Don't blame them. As for getting power back. What do these people expect. There are entire backbones gone. They need rebuilt from scratch. It takes time.
I also think Obama and Christie did a good job of not making this a political circus. Kudos to both of them.
They refused to adequatly prepare and asked for little in the way of staged resources from not only FEMA but also within the state itself. they failed to acknowledge the breeching of the leeves until the problem had become significant and even after that, failed to request adequate resources until well into the incident.
The state of LA screwed up the response to Katrina, not FEMA, and quite honestly continues to have major issues with hurricane response to this day.
As far as this particiluar post the fact the the local union made an issue of the fact that these members from Alabama were not unionized firefighters simply disgusts me. The fact is that this is asituation where union afflication should have no place in accepting assistance in either case (fire service or utility).
As the previous poster stated, amny of the residents that need help now were asked or told to evacuate and choose not to. IMO, they made a choice to stay despite the warnings and now, sorry to say, they must live with the choice as it's simply unreasonable to expect the level of assistance being avaialble this soon after the incident given the intensity and size of the storm.
What a surprise. The story on Breitbart is bogus.
I am constantly amused at the idiocy that comes out of outlets like Breitbart and the gullibility of those that read them.
Representatives with Huntsville Utilities and Joe Wheeler Cooperative, two area utilities mentioned in media reports claiming their crews were not allowed to help with storm aid in New Jersey because they were non-union, said this morning the story is untrue.
The general manager of the other department mentioned, Decatur Utilities, has since verified claims that his workers were asked to affiliate with a union.
We still have troops in harms way and conservatives routinely criticize the president. Can you tell us what happened to cause such a dramatic shift in attitude?
What a toolbag.
It didn't help that the Bush appointed FEMA Director was more concerned about getting the right tie at Nordstroms than he was in filling the leadership void in LA.
Guess what .. It's not FEMA's role to fill at "leadership void" the the state level. It's the state's EMO job to run and coordinate the operation in thier state, not the feds. FEMA was never setup nor designed to step into and take over a state's response to a disaster. It was designed to supplement the state response and command structure and provide coodination for REQUESTED federal resources from the states, and that happened way too little an way to late in Katrina as the local OEM in NO and the state OEM was well behind the 8-ball from the start both in terms of bringing up and mobilizing in-state and requesting federal resources.
if you read the Stafford Act, that is how the legislation intents FEMA to operate.
Disaster management is local, regional and state based supplemented by the feds, not the other way around.
They are basically a logistical agency working for the state OEM in whatever capacity the state decides.
And if there are state OEM's that cannot manage disasters in thier own state's they administration of those agencies should be roundly criticized, sacked and replaced.
Sorry, but if our parish OEM comes into our fire district and tells us how to manage our rescue and response operations in the event of a disaster, they are wrong. If the state OEM tries to tell the parish OEM how to manage resources and operations in our parish, they are out of line. And if the feds come into a state OEM and try to tell the state how to run things, they are out of line as they are exceeding their legislative authority. It really is that simple.
Brag about dealing with an incident with local resources if possible? Last I knew that was the function of local responders.
The last tornado that came through here (2009) we dealt quite effectively with our part of the response by ourselves with limited assistance from 2 mutual aid departments.
The city pretty much handled their end of tornado by themselves.
Parish OEM provided some logistical support, but operations were very much handled at the fire department level.
So was the rest of the story. Yet you bought it hook, line, and sinker.
Run along Bobby. This is for grownups. You only qualify chronologically.